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David:
Nice dance! Well exposed, and the ripples can make it a challenge at times, not to blow the whites.
Nice wing display, head angle.
If you have the canvas, I would prefer him a bit more to the left side of the frame.
Cheers
Randy
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Man, that far wing is full and thick! Perfect head angle, and nice blue water. I agree with Randy about the comp - less room behind and more in front would improve on that.
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Daniel Cadieux
Man, that far wing is full and thick! Perfect head angle, and nice blue water. I agree with Randy about the comp - less room behind and more in front would improve on that.
Randy and Daniel, as always thanks for looking and for your astute suggestions. I totally get your points on the crop and I have more on the right. The reason it is cropped as is has to do with the direction of the look and the knowledge from other images in this sequence. This beauty hopped into this position, immediately spread wings and began to spin to his right. So, I left more room where I know he is going and looking for that matter (more room to look into). I do realize no one else would know this.
Thanks again for your very valued opinions.
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David:
Thanks for the explanation about the chosen crop. If you were showing a series of images with the complete turn in it, then by all means, the posted crop would work well. As a stand alone image, I would consider an "adjusted" crop.
Cheers
Randy
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David, great shot the only adjustment would be the crop and maybe in a 2X3 ratio.
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Originally Posted by
Randy Stout
David:
Thanks for the explanation about the chosen crop. If you were showing a series of images with the complete turn in it, then by all means, the posted crop would work well. As a stand alone image, I would consider an "adjusted" crop.
Cheers
Randy
Thanks again Randy and I hear you. I went from never having a chance at a white morph to having four visits (late evenings and early mornings) with these beauties almost to myself. I always went vertical when they were getting close as I sat in the sand near the edge of the water. But I do have the room here.
When it rains it pours...
Peace,
David
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Good on the EXP and sharpness with a great pose. Bad job on the framing ... I commented first and read your explanation second. It makes zero sense to me. The frames before cannot mean anything to anyone but you. We are trying to help you improve the image. I for one would love to see this as a 2X3 with all the room on the right :)
with love, artie
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Agree with what has been said here. But the wing looks huge. The light sure was nice.
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Arthur Morris
Good on the EXP and sharpness with a great pose. Bad job on the framing ... I commented first and read your explanation second. It makes zero sense to me. The frames before cannot mean anything to anyone but you. We are trying to help you improve the image. I for one would love to see this as a 2X3 with all the room on the right :)
with love, artie
Hi Artie, I was not arguing with the framing point just giving my reasoning (faulty as it is) for framing as is. As I told Randy, I hear you.
Peace,
David
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Much, much beetter but I'd still love to see it 3X2.
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Arthur Morris
Much, much beetter but I'd still love to see it 3X2.
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Hi Artie,
You (perhaps mistakenly) said previously 2x3 which I couldn't get since this is cropped from horizontal. It is full frame top to bottom. I will try for 3x2 next. But I am curious why 3x2?
Peace,
David
Last edited by David Roach; 05-22-2019 at 03:57 AM.
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David Roach
Hi Artie,
You (perhaps mistakenly) said previously 2x3 which I couldn't get since this is cropped from horizontal. It is full frame top to bottom. I will try for 3x2 next. But I am curious why 3x2?
Peace,
David
Yes, I always meant 3X2 so my bad :(
3X2 is the proportion of the RAW files as they come out of the camera. Am I married to 3X2? Not at all; I will go pano at times and boxy at other times depending on the image. Can you post a JPEG that represent the full frame original image capture?
with love, artie
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