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    This tight image of the edge of the wing of a medium-sized Great Egret chick was created with the handheld 400mm IS DO lens with the 1.4X II TC, 37mm of extension, and the EOS-1D Mark IV. ISO 400: 1/125 sec. at f/18. Manual flash as main light at 1:2.

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    Artie,

    For me it is always amazing to see a picture that is visually pleasing, but I have to look and think to see what it is :-).
    Your flash tech. resulted a quite natural result where the details are nicely there. Did you lighten up the back for this result?
    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It is truly appreciated.
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    A sincere thanks for your kind comments sir. I am not sure what you mean by "the back." Please explain and I will get back to you.
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    Sorry for my messy English. My brain is full of Spanish today :-).

    We see our main subject that is the wing of our egret. In the BG there is the belly and the legs I guess. I expected that too be darker, since it is flash as main light and I was wondering did it come out this way or you made it lighter with some quick mask work to make the shadow a bit softer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorant Voros View Post
    Sorry for my messy English. My brain is full of Spanish today :-).

    We see our main subject that is the wing of our egret. In the BG there is the belly and the legs I guess. I expected that too be darker, since it is flash as main light and I was wondering did it come out this way or you made it lighter with some quick mask work to make the shadow a bit softer?
    Thanks Lorant, That's what I thought that you meant. Yes to the belly and the legs. Parts of both are lit by the flash as they are very close to the wing. The shadows on the belly and legs are actually caused the the flash which was on camera to the left so the shadow is that of the chick's wing. The distant background was in sun so it did not turn out black. Only the lower right corner suffered from flash fall off.

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    very interesting shot, hadn't seen the details so up close, good exposure on the whites too. So the little "stems" are supposed to grow into full size feathers(?)
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    Great "macro" shot of those feathers. Wonderful sharpness and great light.

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    Image is not sRGB profile :)
    Other than that, I like it :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arash_hazeghi View Post
    very interesting shot, hadn't seen the details so up close, good exposure on the whites too. So the little "stems" are supposed to grow into full size feathers(?)
    Yes. The feathers on the left have emerged from the sheaths. The tiny feathers along the edge of the wing have not. My favorite part is the green skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Graham View Post
    Image is not sRGB profile. Other than that, I like it :) Tom
    Thanks for pointing that out Tom. The image is in sRGB profile but as was pointed out in the great post in the ??? forum (please provide a link if you would) I do not think that I had the ICC box checked in save for web. It is always great to learn something new--I do it often :)

    Please let me know if you like the repost here any better. :)
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    Also, can you note any difference in the color of the two (assuming that the repost shows up as sRGB)?
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    Nice to see and learned something new. This is something we don't get to see often.

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    You are welcome and I agree. There are some stunning opps with chicks right now at both gatorland and St Augustine Alligator Farm and they will continue for several if not many months (the latter only if you can stand the heat and humidity). :)
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    Artie, I really like the up close look showing something most of us never get to see. It also has an artistic look to it. I love seeing the green showing through.:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    You are welcome and I agree. There are some stunning opps with chicks right now at both gatorland and St Augustine Alligator Farm and they will continue for several if not many months (the latter only if you can stand the heat and humidity). :)
    I plan to go soon. I have never been, I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Lim View Post
    I plan to go soon. I have never been, I can't wait.
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    Artie, you always seem to come up with new ideas. Interesting to see the development of the feathers. The green skin certainly stands out from the white.

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    Thanks Stuart. I have been after tight images of their wing panels for years. For those who will be visiting Gatorland soon there are two really close Great Egret nests under the small shelter to the right of the large shelter when you are facing west, i.e., looking back to the touristy section of the park.
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    Hey Artie,

    Looks like somebody has been having a good time at the park! :) Interesting shot of the wing panel, if you wouldn't mind a small suggestion I'd tone down the leg on the right just a bit, it keeps pulling my eye away from the lovely wing detail.

    Was great having you and Denise out to Gatorland, sorry I couldn't be there this past Monday.

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    Mike, Many thanks for the "royal treatment" Much appreciated. Gatorland should be on every photographers itinerary when visiting Florida.:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Godwin View Post
    Hey Artie, Looks like somebody has been having a good time at the park! :) Interesting shot of the wing panel, if you wouldn't mind a small suggestion I'd tone down the leg on the right just a bit, it keeps pulling my eye away from the lovely wing detail. Was great having you and Denise out to Gatorland, sorry I couldn't be there this past Monday.
    Thanks again for your hospitality. I disagree on the leg as my eye are riveted to those pin-feathers and the green skin and the patterns. The few white body feathers and the edge of the leg lit by the flash help to balance the bright white feathers on the left side of the image for me. :)

    Did you see the Blog and Bulletin posts?

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    Thanks for the kind words Denise & Artie, glad you had a good time. As for the suggestion, as long as it pleases you my friend, that's all that matters. But for me.... :D

    I did see the Blog and Bulletin posts, thanks Artie. George Lepp was out Wednesday all day and had a fabulous time. I'll see ya when I see ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Godwin View Post
    Thanks for the kind words Denise & Artie, glad you had a good time. As for the suggestion, as long as it pleases you my friend, that's all that matters. But for me.... :D I did see the Blog and Bulletin posts, thanks Artie. George Lepp was out Wednesday all day and had a fabulous time. I'll see ya when I see ya... Mike
    Heck, I appreciate all comments on my images but I have been doing this long enough to realize that there are different strokes for different folks :) I am glad that George had a good day. I hope to be seeing Gatorland mentioned in Outdoor at some point :)
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    Excellent details and fantastic flash work.

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