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    Each of these was created with the Canon 800mm f/5.6L IS lens and the EOS-1D MIV at LaJolla Shores Beach.

    This one: ISO 400. Evaluative metering +1/3 stop: 1/800 sec. at f/8. Color temperature 8,000K. I used only +1/3 stop here in order to keep from burning the REDs on the RGB histogram. This is the best strategy when working with sweet sunset color.

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    Everything the same except the size of the bird in the frame.
     
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    Same as above except 1/640 sec. at f/8, Color temperature 3200K.
     
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    I prefer the middle image as I like the size of the subject , the first is too big , IMO. What I really love is the sunset color. I think , for my taste , the first one is a bit too saturated.
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    Middle on for me. First one has too much backlit halo weird reflection and third one not enough colors. George is posted in Avian ID.

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    Second one works for me Artie, first bird seems too cramped in comp and 3rd bird, while nice lacks the pop of the second one.

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    i like the third one. just seems more peaceful to me. guessing it's a mood type thing.

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    I like #2 also. But the colors in #3 appeal to me and so does the comp.

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    Artie:

    #2 for me as well. Colors, comp, and elegant pose. #3 is attractive, but pose not as good for me.

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    I like the third one !!! Just love those cool tones, unusual seeing this type image cooled down !!!

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    No. 3 for me. I find the pose more interesting and I love those blues mixed with the more subtle yellow/orange tones.

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    Another vote for number three. The cool blues gives a completely different mode to this silhouette which I find very appealing.
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    I vote for #3 but would crop the line off the top.

    It also appears as though #3 is the natural capture, whereas the others were most likely taken with the in camera K increased. In that case when I have two photographs that are both good, I'll usually gravitate toward the natural one.
     
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    No. 2 is my favorite because of the wider crop and water colors.
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    Artie I prefer 2 or 3 (Marina's crop). The bird in the third image seems more relaxed while it's alert in the first two.

    I would also have liked to have seen another crop somewhere between 1 and 2 (more like #3).
     
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    #2 is the one that catches my attention the most. I believe it has to do with the wider crop and I guess that yields a more pleasing composition, just my two cents.
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    I prefer #3 for the composition and the colours. If you take the bird and it's reflection as a single object, in my mind, they are placed perfectly in the shot. In the other two shots the placing of the bird and the reflection does not work. I find the complimentary colours more attractive as well.

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    I like the last one since it is the natural colors I see on California coast.

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    I prefer the third. I like the position of the bird in the frame the most as well as the light. The cool light seems to me more like a late evening and very relaxing time of day. Dave

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    I prefer #3 because of the colors in the water and peaceful feeling the picture generates for me.
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    Number three, for the colour and the size in the frame. This one stands out from the other two on visual impact and balance although the natural tendency I have is towards warmer colours.

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    Great job controlling the reds in 1 and 2 ... color is gorgeous!

    I find 1 too tight in the frame.
    I like 2 better but I think I'd like to see the bird a bit higher in the frame.
    As great as the color is in 1 and 2, I find myself liking the cooler colors in 3 even better.
    As others have said, more soothing and also something different.
    However, I prefer the pose/silhouette shape in 1 and 2 and I'd also like the bird a bit higher in the frame in 3 as well.

    So I guess my ideal would be colors from #3 with silhouette of 1/2 and bird a bit higher.

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    Third one for its natural colors
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    #2 for me. More room for the bird than #1 providing a better comp and the colors pop more for me than #3.

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    Hi Artie. I prefer no 2. I like comp with the extra space in 2 more than in no 1. I also think the angle of the no 2 shot is better than in no 3 and I prefer the warm colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshad Barve View Post
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    I agree with this and the fact that it is different.

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    The first shot is my favorite. I don't object to the subject and its reflection filling the frame. The second image appears to show a dust spot behind the nape of the bird (removed from #1 and #3)?

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    The third, because one and two look over the top from where I'm sitting (temperature and saturation). I suspect somewhere in the middle temperature wise might suit my taste. I would turn down the saturation on all of them.

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    I will be different I like number one because of the color saturation More sunsetish for me.

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    both #2 and #3 as two quite different images and moods, with #2 being stronger overall.
    I'm against tighter crops in either. I think the bird and the reflection should be considered
    as a single subject and placed in the frame accordingly.
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    I find # 1 too tight in the frame.
    I do like # 3 but with Marina's crop.

    My fave is #2 but again with Stephen's crop.

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    Artie, third one for me....although all are very good. The alternating color bands make it different.

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    Without having read any of the above comments, Im going with the middle one. Why - I like the more space around the bird, and I prefer the firey colours than your third post.

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    #1 because of the angle of the bird, the water, and the colors. I would get rid of the bright line above the bird's bill though.
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    Artie,

    If we ignore small issues in processing, dust-spots, halos or whatever and just judge on the merits of color and composition, I like image#1 since the bird and it's reflection is the focus and seems balanced enough in the frame.

    I find Image#2 to have a little too much background and the subject seems to be dominated by the extra space around it.

    Image #3 I also like for different reasons - it's so different from the first two that I find it hard to directly compare them. For me, this image's attractiveness is due to the background, not the bird. The soft banding of the blues and orange make a pleasing visual balance with the darker banding of the bird's reflection. It exudes a quite stillness, more appealing in some ways than the first two.

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    Artie although I usually like warmer colours I am finding the third one to be breath-takingly beuatiful due to the tones and lines and soft mood.
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    Artie, I like #2 and #3 if I am forced to choose one right now I will say #2 but Iīm sure that if you ask me tomorrow I might say #3 because that will depend which mood I am at the moment.

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    I vote for number 3. The soft color interaction between the skyblue and orange with the dark bird works best for me.
    I also like the relaxed pose of the bird best of the three.

    NB the second image has some funny spots, see attached.
     

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    In order of preference its 3, 2 and 1 for me, but only by a small margin. Number 3 seems more natural with its colours to me, I guess I associate sea birds with blue... Number 1 seems to have lost some of its context for me as its largely a silhouette without detail..

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    # 3 by far.

    The first 2 are simply too typical relative to the 3200k presentation IMHO.
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    Most interesting!

    Having read the various comments and then going back to the images, I go with #1.

    While you suggest that they are the same images,

    "everything the same"

    "same as above"

    the images are quite different.

    Looking at them in reverse order, #3 is more compact than either #1 or #2. Almost a hunched-over position more consistent with the cooler background. The tail is down and you do not see feather detail around the body.

    While I still vote for #1, one thing that bothers me with #1 and #2 is that the refelction seems to have a straight edge on the left side; not as present with #3.

    Agree with Jim regarding the shine on the top of the bill.
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    Jay, "Everything the same" obviously referred to the gear and the exposure data....
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    Oops - wasn't "obvious" to me!

    Still vote for #1.
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    Not only was it plainly obvious but the implication that I thought or implied that the three images were "the same" is quite strange at best.
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    I really like #3. #1 would be my second vote. I tend to lean toward a more open composition. I think the composition in #3 is very strong. You don't always have to "break the rules" to make a stunning image. I've seen many orange silhouettes, but the composition, coloring and diagonal lines in #3 win it for me.
     
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    Thanks all for playing and for you comments. I prefer #s 2 and 3 to #1 but like them all. Peter, thanks a ton for your good eyes. You missed one big one in #1 in the urc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Scarr View Post
    I vote for #3 but would crop the line off the top. It also appears as though #3 is the natural capture, whereas the others were most likely taken with the in camera K increased. In that case when I have two photographs that are both good, I'll usually gravitate toward the natural one.
    Thanks to all the crop suggesters; there are surely lots of acceptable crops for #3 and #2. #3 is actually cooler than what it looked like (due to the 3200 K that I set). And #s 1 and 2 were created when the water was much more orange with the sun just above the horizon. I believe that #3 was created when the sun was almost completely down.
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    For me, I like #1 the best...it feels more intimate...like I was enjoying the sunset with a friends! All are good though!

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