Needs Anger Management

**Layton E Parham** · 02-09-2008 09:11 PM

Two girls in a pickup truck should not have made him so angry. Viera Wetlands ,FL
www.laytonparhamphoto.com

**Fabs Forns** · 02-09-2008 10:50 PM

Wow, I am glad I'm not close to him

Very nicely done, great exposure and colors. Composition is good too. If this were mine, I'd probably blur the water and weeds a little bit.

Great going!

**Kaushik Balakumar** · 02-10-2008 06:32 AM

wow, what jaws ...

**D. Robert Franz** · 02-10-2008 09:31 AM

You had very nice light for this image the open jaws is great. I don't mind the cropping of the gater behind the front leg. Thats a good spot for such a crrop. I would however like to see a bit more room in the FG.

**Milo Burcham** · 02-10-2008 05:06 PM

I like Dale's suggestions. Great image, all the way down to the gape and the pearly whites!

**Arthur Morris** · 02-10-2008 07:57 PM

Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

later and love, artie

**Axel Hildebrandt** · 02-10-2008 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Arthur Morris

Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

later and love, artie

Hmm, let's read Artie's mind. Getting too close to a hungry gator?

I might have turned the camera CCW to level it and there is a sharpening halo.

**Arthur Morris** · 02-10-2008 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Axel Hildebrandt

Hmm, let's read Artie's mind. Getting too close to a hungry gator?

I might have turned the camera CCW to level it and there is a sharpening halo.

No stars for you Mr. Axel!

Who's next?

Later and love, artie

**Howard Burkert** · 02-10-2008 09:41 PM

Is it that the eye is a near "Bulls Eye" ?.
Best,
Howard

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 06:17 AM

Sorry, no stars for Howard (but possibly related to the correct answer).

later and love, artie

**Gautam Biswas** · 02-11-2008 07:31 AM

Is it the head angle to the image plane? Slightly away from the parallel

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 07:58 AM

No stars for Gautam. The head angle is perfecto! (See the Head Angle Police thread in ETL).

later and love and keep trying. You will all kick yourselves hard for missing the obvious. And when somebody gets it, I will explain why you all missed it and how you can make all of your images better before you even press the shutter buttton!

later and love, artie

**Dennis Huff** · 02-11-2008 08:05 AM

The pond edge is touching the head?

**Howard Burkert** · 02-11-2008 09:13 AM

Is it that the body crop should be closer to the leg joint?
Best,
Howard

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 09:26 AM

Dennis idea has merit but it is not the major flaw that I am referring to. Raising the tripod a bit would have gotten the snout totally against the green which would be preferred. As for Howard, you have one more strike to go...

later and love, artie

**Howard Burkert** · 02-11-2008 09:34 AM

Is it that the body is comming directly out of the corner? If I strike out I am going looking for the two girls in the pickup truck!
Best,
Howard

**Dennis Huff** · 02-11-2008 10:40 AM

Caption references the two girls but they are not shown? I'm with Howard!

**Robert Amoruso** · 02-11-2008 10:43 AM

The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut.

I'd crop more off the top as well.

**Axel Hildebrandt** · 02-11-2008 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Amoruso

The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut.

I'd crop more off the top as well.

That is a good point. My 'no star' answer to level the horizon would have taken care of this. So who knows what Mr. Artie thinks.

**Howard Burkert** · 02-11-2008 02:52 PM

Maybe it is as simple as...once focus was made with the center focus spot, (on the eye) the camera was not moved to make the correct composition? I would settle for 2 stars!
Best,
Howard

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Howard Burkert

Maybe it is as simple as...once focus was made with the center focus spot, (on the eye) the camera was not moved to make the correct composition? I would settle for 2 stars!
Best, Howard

No stars and you are the weakest link! (Sorry, I could not resist.) Please send reinforcements...

later and love, artie

**Jim Poor** · 02-11-2008 03:45 PM

Well, I'm stumped, but tuning in in anticipation of the mystery revealed

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jim Poor

Well, I'm stumped, but tuning in in anticipation of the mystery revealed

Man, it involves an absolute fundamental that good photographers check most every time before they push the button...

And if they fail to check, they usually live to regret it.
later and love, artie

ps: Hope that nobody gets it before I send tonight's Bulletin.

**Jim Poor** · 02-11-2008 04:03 PM

Check the Background for distractions?

P.S. We need a "raise the white flag" smiley

**Arthur Morris** · 02-11-2008 04:18 PM

Close but no stars or cigars for you.

later and love, artie

**Layton E Parham** · 02-11-2008 10:02 PM

The leveling of the camera?

**Arthur Morris** · 02-12-2008 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Layton E Parham

The leveling of the camera?

Sorry, no stars for Layton...

later and love, artie

**Robert D. Gregg** · 02-12-2008 03:52 AM

I don't know what you are getting at.

I sure am interested in the answer though.

BigBib...

**Jim Poor** · 02-12-2008 10:29 AM

DOF preview?

**Fabs Forns** · 02-12-2008 10:34 AM

No rule of thirds in positioning the subject?

**Terry Jackson** · 02-12-2008 11:58 AM

Personally I think it's the out of focus foreground that pulls my eye away from the gator.

TJ

**Arthur Morris** · 02-12-2008 12:02 PM

No stars yet for anyone...

later and love, artie

**Grace Scalzo** · 02-12-2008 01:17 PM

Light/sun angle.

**D. Robert Franz** · 02-12-2008 01:32 PM

The horizontal OOF something or another (log) on the left side of the frame enters the frame from who knows where....

**Krijn Trimbos** · 02-12-2008 01:35 PM

The angle of photography? A higher angle would have probably made the BG a little more homogenous green? A lower angle would have seperated the subject from the BG more....??

**Dona Hilkey** · 02-12-2008 03:25 PM

I am hesitant to say this because I am only an ameteur and may be way off and someone might have already mentioned it but how about a lot of CW rotation? I find the diagonal line of focus somewhat uncomfortable.
Dona

**Jason Ambler** · 02-12-2008 04:11 PM

Is it that the photograph tends to move from dark (green vegetation at bottom) to light (blue water) to dark again (water vegetation)? I know this is a subjective viewpoint but don't most photographs tend to be darker on the bottom and lighter as you move toward the horizon or top of frame?

Just a thought,

Jason

**Arthur Morris** · 02-12-2008 09:40 PM

Nope, nope, nope and nope...

later and love, artie

**Brian Wong** · 02-12-2008 10:05 PM

Hi Artie!

Clean edges?

**Mike Milicia** · 02-13-2008 12:21 AM

Hot spots in the background?

**Arthur Morris** · 02-13-2008 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Brian Wong

Hi Artie!

Clean edges?

Hey Brian, Please explain in more detail...

Sorry Mike... Way to go with the great plover images...

later and love,

artie

**Robert Amoruso** · 02-13-2008 05:46 AM

One more try. That OOF blob on the lower right.

**Jim Neiger** · 02-13-2008 09:38 AM

I'll take a shot at it. Is it that point of focus is on the near shoulder and not the eye?

**Doug West** · 02-13-2008 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Morris

Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

later and love, artie

Over saturated...well, at least it looks over saturated after I've
saved it and looked at on my monitor.

Doug

**Mike Tracy** · 02-13-2008 09:54 AM

I wish the tip of his upper jaw / nose was fully in the green foliage and not intersected by the waters edge.

**Howard Burkert** · 02-13-2008 10:09 AM

One more try! Basic rule.... Prior to shutter realease....What is in front of and in back of your subject.
Best,
Howard

**Arthur Morris** · 02-13-2008 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Amoruso

The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut. I'd crop more off the top as well.

Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

later and love, artie

**D. Robert Franz** · 02-13-2008 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Morris

Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

later and love, artie

Artie,

I mentioned that the image needed more FG in my initial critique..... It was a great learning tool....

**Brian Wong** · 02-13-2008 11:43 AM

Hi Artie!

I can't tell you how much I enjoy these "quizzes" ... Not only are they great for teaching ... but even more valuable for those of us trying to improve, and learn from the experts. Wasn't it interesting to read all the possible answers from so many people, and all the theories and reasons? Terrific stuff!!!

**Robert Amoruso** · 02-13-2008 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Arthur Morris

Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

later and love, artie

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