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    Lake Louise taken before sunrise in August 2011.

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    Tripod, CP and 2 stop GND. Some selective dodging and burning, s/h, levels, curves, LCE and sharpened in CS5. Full frame except for leveling the horizon.

    C&C welcome and appreciated. Thanks,

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    Nice foreground leading the viewer into the frame and I find the red canoe a nice added touch. As presented their seems to be a lot of noise in the image not sure if thats from the jpeg compression are not and I would take some off the top to move the horizon line into the uppet 1/3 of the frame.
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    Thanks Don. I'm pretty sure it is from compression as it is not there in the tiff or jpeg and it compressed to about 40 percent.

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    Love the reflection. I agree with Don - the image as presented shows noise. Also think a crop from the top would improve this.

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    Rachel, it looks like a lovely scene and comp with the reflections adding a lot.
    I too see a lot of noise (more than usual) and also some JPG artifacts. Did you bring up shadow detail excessively here? Would love to be able to see a RAW file and 'work it up' - if you don't mind you can email me a link via something like DropBox or YouSendit?
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    Thanks Mike and Morkel. Morkel - you should have an email.

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    Hi Rachel, a lovely scene, but a little noisy as the others mention. Let's see what Morkel can do with it.

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    Okay - here is my rework from the RAW file.
    • In raw conversion - brought up fill light a bit and recovered highlights so that nothing was blown. Warmed up WB very slightly.
    • Ran LCE on the high res image once.
    • Ran Robert's luminosity multiplied mask once - 30% opacity then flattened.
    • Burned highlights 5% on the sky.
    • Resized to 800px using the sharpening action I posted as a sticky - the one titled "advanced web sharpening + glow" on the 800px setting. Left sharpening masks as is.
    • Ran another action by Hougaard Malan (www.hougaardmalan.com) for increasing midtone contrast across the range.
    • Ran the "Digital Saturation" action for advanced saturation by Alex Nail (www.alexnail.com), adjusted mask opacity to 50%.
    • Burned shadows and dodged highlights on the FG rocks and BG mountains (5%).
    What do you guys think? Rachel?
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    Morkel - looks much better. Thanks

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    Morkel,

    Great tutorial. I think I woould like to see this processing on the OP as I like that composition.

    Rachel,

    Please run the above on the OP and repost. I like the strong V-inverted V composition framing in the vertical. I also like all the detail in the FG rocks. Morkel's rework did it justice.

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    Robert - no need to run it on the op as Morkel had the raw although I don't remember cropping it. Also I don't have all the tools that Morkel refers to so cannnot replicate it.

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    Thanks Robert and Rachel.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Hollander View Post
    Robert - no need to run it on the op as Morkel had the raw although I don't remember cropping it. Also I don't have all the tools that Morkel refers to so cannnot replicate it.
    I cropped for rotation as the horizon was skew in the RAW capture.
    Rachel - you can easily replicate the steps using normal saturation, midtone contrast boost slider in the "shadows/highlights" section of PS and the sharpening actions I posted as a sticky on top of the thread. The actions I used are just 'better ways' of applying standard processing steps.


    Nevertheless - here are links to these actions that these amazing photographers have put up on their websites for free...

    In raw conversion - brought up fill light a bit and recovered highlights so that nothing was blown. Warmed up WB very slightly.
    • Ran LCE on the high res image once.
    • Ran Robert's luminosity multiplied mask once - 30% opacity then flattened.
    • Burned highlights 5% on the sky.
    • Resized to 800px using the sharpening action I posted as a sticky - the one titled "advanced web sharpening + glow" on the 800px setting. Left sharpening masks as is.
    • Ran another action by Hougaard Malan (www.hougaardmalan.com) for increasing midtone contrast across the range.
    • Ran the "Digital Saturation" action for advanced saturation by Alex Nail (www.alexnail.com), adjusted mask opacity to 50%.
    • Burned shadows and dodged highlights on the FG rocks and BG mountains (5%).


    Hougaard Malan's midtone contrast tutorial plus link to download the free action:
    http://www.hougaardmalan.com/blog/ad...t-application/

    Alex Nail's saturation tutorial plus link to download the free action:
    http://www.alexnail.com/blog/tutoria...al-saturation/

    And - for good measure - here is a link to Hougaard's sharpening tutorial and free actions...this is very similar to the one I posted in the sticky from Philip Perold, so either one works. I've used both with good success.
    http://www.hougaardmalan.com/blog/sh...ght-diffusion/

    Hope this helps?
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    Thanks Morkel, much appreciated. I'll have to play around a bit when I have more time.

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    Very nice repost Morkel, and thanks for the links

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    Great tutorial Morks , this looks a little oversharp??? Rachel , great scene and capture

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    Thanks guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Aveley View Post
    this looks a little oversharp???
    Perhaps I overcooked it on the mountains, but upfront is just fine for my tastes - also a personal choice this sharpening thing, eh?
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    Yeah , it is and with my eyes , eish

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