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    A slight change/position of the vehicle from the previous image to get the 'head on' approach.

    Same spec as before.

    Smoothed out two marks in the BKG and this time no stick, but there was one lying in the grass slightly visible, again removed, flies stay in. Slight crop from above for presentation.

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    Like it like I like the one before
    In processing, how do you decide the color balance, the warmth, of this kind of light? Do you use perhaps a Kelvin temperature like 5200 or 6500?
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    The absence of the stick helps, but the eyes and leg positions are not as good.
    I think Tom's question is interesting as to me this looks much to warm

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    Hi Steve
    I like the stare .. but image really needs a raised paw to carry it...
    have to agree it looks too warm... needs a little colour balance to give separation between subject and BKG ... I think you may have over done the sharpening , eyes and nose look a little frosty.. some clipping in your whites around the whiskers and lower right leg..
    will go and have a look at part one!

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    Hi Tom, yes the Kelvin temp is part of the Workflow, along with other parts of initial adjustments at the beginning and will vary from image to image.

    Hi Peter, I'm quite happy with the warmth as it was getting towards the latter part of the day, I think you will find it's not the sharpening, but the fact I added a little more contrast, looks OK in a bigger format. Looked in Levels and the whites look OK. Nice to have you back Mr D .
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    Steve - I prefer the first one with the head up a bit, the raised paw and the sliver of tongue. She looks a little more menancing here. Whites look ok to me. My first impression was also a bit too warm but you were the one there. If you hadn't posted the other image first, I'd probably be saying wow about this one.

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    It does not look too warm to me. I ask the question because I like, and like to take, photos in this kind of light. Then comes PP and I have to judge the "right" color balance. Which ends up being what looks good to me .

    But I would like to begin the PP adjustment(s) with something more "scientific" (the engineer in me) and then proceed. Only way I know is to use a gray card, might be reasonable to shoot one every 5mins during those twilight hours? Memory cards are cheap. (But I'm lazy!!).
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    Hi Steve,
    Thought I had commented on your previous post of this lioness but... Warmth/color looks ok to me as does the sharpness. Nice complimentary colored, creamy BG too. Because of the straight legs, this one doesn't give me a sense of movement, even though I suspect by your title and the previous post that she was coming towards you. A pretty good shot regardless.

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    I think the light looks fine, i would get rid of the flies, since they are not sharp, they just distract for me.
    Dan Kearl

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    Thanks Rachel & Dan.

    Then comes PP and I have to judge the "right" color balance. Which ends up being what looks good to me.
    Initially true Tom, but you also have the aid of your RAW converter to get things more reflective/accurate, the combination of the two works well I think.

    But I would like to begin the PP adjustment(s) with something more "scientific" (the engineer in me) and then proceed. Only way I know is to use a gray card,
    Ah, the engineer, now that explains the inquisitive mind and probing questions no harm in having an inquiring mind.

    The 'Grey card' is IMHO, not a practical proposition out in the field for obvious reasons Tom, however knowing your passion for this there are elements within the main software apps used to find a 'mid grey' prior to exporting the TIFF, or and this would sadly be after you export your file from your RAW converter, (which is probably too late), but by adding a new layer you can make your own 'grey card' which you can then find your mid point easily, if you so wish.

    Because of the straight legs, this one doesn't give me a sense of movement
    Very true Steve, she actually paused when this was taken, but I do like the head on, eyes fixed directly with the viewer.

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    I like the POV and the sweet light.
    My initial thought was that the face was oversharpened...but looking closely I don't think that's the case as it doesn't have "that look", although it does appear crisp (could well be the contrast adjustment you mentioned).
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    The head on pose and lighting overcome the small nits raised, nicely seen here Steve.
    TFS


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