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    Default Dagha Boy (Male Cape Buffalo)

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    Tried a conversion, I will post the color version to see which one folks would prefer...Crits appreciated

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    Here is the color version

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    Both the colour version and the B&W have their attractions Dumay, but I always tend to go with the conversions when it comes to abstracts like this... Lovely detail and textures here!

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    Did not know we had an ear theme this month? :)

    I prefer the B&W version.

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    Dumay - another vote for the b&w. Nice detail and texture, though I do like the eye of the color version. Well composed.

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    Like the b/w here. I would crop an inch from the bottom to create more shapes/patterns in the abstract.

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    I am afraid none of the two work for me.
    Last edited by Ofer Levy; 11-15-2011 at 06:43 AM.

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    Ofer... Rather say why, I appreciate feedback rather than a unhelpful comment.

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    Sorry double post
    Last edited by Dumay de Boulle; 11-15-2011 at 12:41 PM.

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    Hi Dumay , I prefer the colour version. I like the colour in the eye and feel the textures and detail in the ears and horn show up better. Not to say I don't like the B&W.

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    Very creative crop and great detail I feel the color version brings out the eye a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumay de Boulle View Post
    Ofer... Rather say why, I appreciate feedback rather than a unhelpful comment.
    Hi Dumay, for me it is quite obvious but I will say it anyhow. I see no beauty or any 'artistic' justification to show less than half a face of an animal. For me it conveys nothing and it is meaningless. I am sure you can enter it to BBC/Veolia photographer of the year and maybe win an award as they seem to love body parts of animals especially in B&W. I guess I am just a simple guy with simple way of looking at things. When I see a head shot I want to see the whole head, with something interesting - an expression, light, detail - something. In here I see nothing that justifies this crop.
    As a general comment I would say that I am not happy with the way the major competitions tend to lead some kind of "artistic" fashion. I much prefer the straight forward wildlife photography with great action/behaviour or even superb portraits rather than what I see as "gimmicks".
    This is of course just my opinion and I only say it as you asked to hear it. I know that many, including you, see things differently which is fine.

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    I like this capture very much, but much prefer the B&W. The fur details in the ears are great. I feel this crop is enough to really capture the story of this buffalo...a tough one.
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    Thanks for taking the time to look and comment folks and thanks Ofer for helping me understand your feelings about this kind of work. Not a easy subject to make a interesting image out of, I will keep trying though!
    Last edited by Dumay de Boulle; 11-15-2011 at 10:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumay de Boulle View Post
    Not a easy subject to make a interesting image out of, I will keep trying though!

    Now, that, I completely agree with. Am yet to create a decent CB image myself.

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    Hi Dumay,
    I'm of a similar train of thought as Ofer on shots like this. I'd rather see the symmetry of perfectly matched horns (or the interesting differences in those that don't match) than just half a head and be left wondering what the other side looks like. Also prefer color for most wildlife images. That being said, for me, looking at wildlife pics is like drinking beer or watching pretty women. It's all good, we just each have our own preferences . As for this pic, I prefer the color version. The colors are closely matched and compliment each other. The curved up horn and the drooping ear, together with the eye pointing into the gap between them, makes for an interesting composition.

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    Hi Dumay, firstly great minds think alike.

    OK, like my image, your image I feel also suffers from not enough DOF, if you do this kind of image then I think the nose also needs to be in focus, difficult with mine due to fading light, however, how far you would need to take this I'm not the right guy to say ie f22 and then SS/ISO issues?? Also having the curvature of the antler gives you another issue as I feel it needs to be included, this then throws the whole thought process & composition out sadly. Was this shot landscape with all the antler in or is this FF? I do appreciate how difficult it is to get a new, abstract, yet interesting shots of these guys having spent time shooting these guys very recently with the ever threatening presence of lions.

    So to your question, does this work, well sadly for me it doesn't, whether it needs to be more graphic/abstract, tighter, more bolder in the medium used. Suggest you look at Beverly & Derek Joubert who's work I find very inspiring in parts, albeit in places, rather dated, but something might spring from this. Always good to see a different train of thought, rather than the comfy pair of slipper we like to wear.

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    Late to the party here, mate.
    I like it...I prefer the B&W slightly but I like how the eye stands out in the colour version. Perhaps reducing overall contrast slightly in the OP and dodging the eye a tad will help it stand out more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiran Khanzode View Post
    Now, that, I completely agree with. Am yet to create a decent CB image myself.
    Plus one here and had as many as 5 trips to Africa
    Great detail and texture
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    Must have missed this earlier, it is probably too late but I agree entirely with Ofers's crititicism in pane 13.

    I am afraid these half head. bits missing shots do nothing for me

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