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    Hi Everyone!

    Here is another version of Bambi presented with more space all around and taken from a lower angle. Here you can really see the surroundings I was dealing with. Your thoughts please?

    Canon 1D3, Canon 100-400L
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    Feisol tripod, Mongoose head

    Thank you all in advance for your comments and critiques. They are very helpful to me.

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    I feel that the previous image was stronger - more intimate and with a more balanced composition. My eyes tend to drift to the upper left part of the frame where the green areas are.

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    Hi Marina,

    The first "improvement" would IMHO to crop to a panorama so that none of the space above the log is present, leave all of the space at each side as is.

    I opened your image in PS and there appears to be some loss of detail in the fur particular where the rear leg touches the body, not to sure how this occurred, but it looks like a blur, did you run a NR layer?

    The eye looks a little "cloudy", perhaps select this with Quick Mask and darken using neutrals in selective colour.

    Finally the nose is also showing a lack of detail and sharpness in comparison to the remaider once again it looks slightly blurred.

    This has the makings of another might fine image, I do hope the above does not seem to crtical.

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    Interesting to see/get two peoples initial comments with totally different POV, as presented I find this more interesting as a location/environment image than previous. Perhaps cropping from where the diagonal trunk hits the main horizontal trunk might address Ofer's concerns ie about an inch off the top? There is a slight movement in the head, but at 1/50 it's not surprising, perhaps a cable or remote trigger might be worth a thought for the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofer Levy View Post
    I feel that the previous image was stronger - more intimate and with a more balanced composition. My eyes tend to drift to the upper left part of the frame where the green areas are.
    I agree that the former image is stronger, Ofer. This is more of an environmental capture and I feel the former evokes more emotion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Watkins View Post
    Hi Marina,

    The first "improvement" would IMHO to crop to a panorama so that none of the space above the log is present, leave all of the space at each side as is. I opened your image in PS and there appears to be some loss of detail in the fur particular where the rear leg touches the body, not to sure how this occurred, but it looks like a blur, did you run a NR layer? The eye looks a little "cloudy", perhaps select this with Quick Mask and darken using neutrals in selective colour. Finally the nose is also showing a lack of detail and sharpness in comparison to the remaider once again it looks slightly blurred. This has the makings of another might fine image, I do hope the above does not seem to crtical.Ken
    The former post was the sharpest of them all which is why I processed it first, plus I liked it more. The fawn was licking throughout most of my captures, and it wasn't easy to keep a nose sharp between licks, esp in such low light.

    Ken, I do not think you are too critical at all and try not to take any critiques personally! I am on this forum b/c I wish to improve and gain knowledge from other photographers. I may not agree with everyone's opinions, but I will surely take them all into consideration and learn from them whether I agree or not. So thank you for your honest opinions now and in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    Interesting to see/get two peoples initial comments with totally different POV, as presented I find this more interesting as a location/environment image than previous. Perhaps cropping from where the diagonal trunk hits the main horizontal trunk might address Ofer's concerns ie about an inch off the top? There is a slight movement in the head, but at 1/50 it's not surprising, perhaps a cable or remote trigger might be worth a thought for the future?Steve
    Agree that this is definitely more of an environental shot. I love getting all the varying POV's b/c it really makes me look closer at my images and the possibilities. As for the cable release, I have one but it rarely leaves my camera bag. You make a good point, and I should have gone back to the car for it, but you always think something amazing may happen while you are off retrieving equipment you should have remembered in the first place.
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    Hi Marina, yes it's easy to say from my perspective looking at your images with hindsight, however, it might just jolt your memory banks for the future, and we have all been there at some point. Sometimes I find it best when the light is that low, watching can be more fun.

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    Marina - I do like the wider view on the sides in particular but agree with your self-critique and as the others said, the prior post was sharper particularly in the head region.

    TFS,
    Rachel

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    Tough shooting conditions well handled Marina. Represents the fawn habitat very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Garige View Post
    Tough shooting conditions well handled Marina. Represents the fawn habitat very well.
    Plus one here
    TFS

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    Hi Marina, we all wish for uncluttered BG's when shooting nature, but sometimes they create the image too. Im fine with the surroundings here, and your focus is on the resting Bambi. You have done exceptionally well for the slow ss.

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