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    Here is another osprey topside view from Florida with Doug and Jim, taken from Jim's boat.

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    Arash:

    Excellent dorsal view with fine detail, like the rich colors, nicely exposed. Good eye contact.

    Perhaps a sliver oversharpened as I am seeing some subtle jaggies on the spine of some of the primaries. Subtle but visible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Stout View Post
    Arash:

    Excellent dorsal view with fine detail, like the rich colors, nicely exposed. Good eye contact.

    Perhaps a sliver oversharpened as I am seeing some subtle jaggies on the spine of some of the primaries. Subtle but visible.

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    Thanks Randy, sharpness looks great on my screen (hardware calibrated HP 30") , I actually often find your photos a tad soft for my taste so it's either the difference between our screens or perception :)
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    Hard to know how to critique your images, they are so good.
    I don't think it looks over sharpened, I would say a bit over saturated.
    The browns are just TOO rich and the BG a bit too green.
    Other than that, great bank angle, great head turn towards you (do you have a call?), just kidding.
    Superb as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dankearl View Post
    Hard to know how to critique your images, they are so good.
    I don't think it looks over sharpened, I would say a bit over saturated.
    The browns are just TOO rich and the BG a bit too green.
    Other than that, great bank angle, great head turn towards you (do you have a call?), just kidding.
    Superb as usual.
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    Stunning. Always a pleasure to view your BIF's.

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    Arash, I use Safari on a Mac desktop.
    Don't get me wrong, the photo is beautiful, in nature however, they don't look as deeply rich brown (approaching reddish) as the photograph.
    Hard to know what the line is for artistic license and art vs. reality, probably a discussion for another forum.
    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dankearl View Post
    Arash, I use Safari on a Mac desktop.
    Don't get me wrong, the photo is beautiful, in nature however, they don't look as deeply rich brown (approaching reddish) as the photograph.
    Hard to know what the line is for artistic license and art vs. reality, probably a discussion for another forum.
    Just my opinion.
    Dan,

    I have not changed the saturation, I agree with you that the colors should be as faithful as possible to the original scene and that is what I strive to achieve.
    I think you have a color calibration issue, since I saw the magenta cast in your osprey shot here: http://www.birdphotographers.net/for...y-intimidation If you open the photo in Photoshop and put an eye dropper on the whites you will see that they are not neutral.
    Have you calibrated your screen recently? The feathers should not look over saturated, checkout the digital forum for a few excellent threads on how to calibrate your screen. I have a PC so the process is a bit different...Once you perform calibration come back and see if it still looks over saturated to you.

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    Pretty darned spectacular.
    The pose, details and bg separation are just jaw dropping.
    The colors look rich and natural to my eyes.
    Stunning image Arash.

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    Sharpness and colours look fine to me. Excllent!

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    Hi guys, looks like I forgot to convert to sRGB, I apologize,
    This version should look natural on all screens

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    beautiful image Arash. I like the BG in your osprey images. Repost looks better in my Mac also

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    Arash, I calibrated and it looked almost the same.
    Your repost looks much better on my screen, it took the "red" out.
    Beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dankearl View Post
    Arash, I calibrated and it looked almost the same.
    Your repost looks much better on my screen, it took the "red" out.
    Beautiful.
    Dan,
    I just converted to sRGB, the original was in Adobe RGB, some screens (especially laptops) cannot display Adobe RGB colors correctly. Thanks for making me check the color profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrique Patino View Post
    beautiful image Arash. I like the BG in your osprey images. Repost looks better in my Mac also

    Interesting looks like this is an issue with Mac versus PC display profiling. on my screen the original looks closest to the scene as I saw it with the repost somewhat muted due to limited sRGB gamut.

    Can someone else with a mac also confirm the original looks red/unnatural?
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    Hmm, on my PC, the original looked perfect and the repost looks rather muted.
    I just checked my mac, and the original does look reddish, but the repost looks perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharth Kodikal View Post
    Hmm, on my PC, the original looked perfect and the repost looks rather muted.
    I just checked my mac, and the original does look reddish, but the repost looks perfect.
    hum...this is interesting I wonder what causes the issue? Ofer also uses a PC and he mentioned colors looked good in the orig.
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    Arash,
    Sent you a PM with pictures running Mac OS (w/ safari) and windows XP (w/ firefox) parallel on a MacBook Pro - I used the print screen function for comparison... but do not know if you will see the diff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrique Patino View Post
    Arash,
    Sent you a PM with pictures running Mac OS (w/ safari) and windows XP (w/ firefox) parallel on a MacBook Pro - I used the print screen function for comparison... but do not know if you will see the diff...

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    Hey Enrique,
    Thanks for your PM! It is really strange, I need to do my homework and solve this puzzle. For now please look at whichever one is more natural. something strange here...
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    Arash, I opened your OP on my mac, and according to PS and "Preview", the color space is sRGB IEC61966-2.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidharth Kodikal View Post
    Arash, I opened your OP on my mac, and according to PS and "Preview", the color space is sRGB IEC61966-2.1
    Thanks Sid, I have to do my homework and find what is causing this...Windows installed some updates today could be that it screwed up with color profiles when installing a new monitor/printer driver.

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    one word excellent,the detail brilliant,like them both,first post the browns a lot richer,repost to me ,is more natural.thanks.

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    Magical shot. I would say one of your best but you have so many best, Arash.

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    Just to put another variance in it...on my PC (browser = IE8) the repost is much better. Awesome pose...and I prefer the small blue spot in ULC cropped out as in the OP.

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    The repost works great Bhai, loved the pose very much here.. great work..

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    Excellent capture Arash...repost looks good.

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    Repost looks bettter. Stunning shot Arash

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    Great image Arash, the 3D feel is great.

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    Arash,

    One of the best images I have seen from Blue Cypress.

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    The shoot is very ok and also bk. For my pc the colour are ok and all is very very interesting

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    Arash I also use FireFox and IMHO the OP is much better, has some real 'oomph' to it!
    Gorgeous banking pose, sharpness and the head-turn takes it to another level.
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    hi arash excellent image nice pose and eye contact..i have windoes laptop..original looks very colourful and repost looks slight dull//i am using google chrome

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    Thank you all for the comments, the issue what with the monitor, I fixed it.

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    O wow, this is brilliant!! Love the in flight pose and beautiful background. I also use Firefox, and agree on the OP being better.

    Truly a spectacular in flight captured! Love it.

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    Killer osprey pose, Arash. Love the way he turned his head to look right at you. Nice and sharp and love the colors. Repost does look better.
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