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    This kingfisher was taken off a boat on the Chobe River.
    Nikon D3s 200-400 taken at 280mm handheld. 1/2500s at F5 ISO800. In PS blured the BG

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    Good exposure, and very sharp as posted. Good job blurring the BG. Comp a bit tight IMO, and I wish there was no sky visible along the top. If you have more room all around the sky may not look as out of place as here it is just trying to peak into the frame. Did you need to lighten under the wing (it looks good...just being curious)

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    Thanks Daniel, this is just about full frame, taken at 7 metres. I agree with sky and should have tried removing it. I did do a bit of H/S but not that much.

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    I really don't see why the inclusion of the sliver of sky is a problem. This is an arresting photo. Sure, the bird is large in the frame, but then, it's the "giant" kingfisher; the composition puts an exclamation point on the bigness of the bird.

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    This is an amazing image Vivaldo. Love the super sharp head, tail and love those tiny feet. Fantastic job with the focus! Would love to see this species some day. TFS.

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    Just love these guys flying posture with the forward wing position. Well done on getting her so close, and sharp where it counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Brelsford View Post
    I really don't see why the inclusion of the sliver of sky is a problem.
    It's not the fact that there is sky, but it's because there is so little of it that makes me want to see more...or none. Very subject of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Cadieux View Post
    It's not the fact that there is sky, but it's because there is so little of it that makes me want to see more...or none. Very subject of course
    As my many comments on your images have shown, I very much respect your eye, Daniel. I'm going to give Vivaldo's sky another good look and try to see where you're coming from.

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    Very beautiful and impressive picture.

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    Looks great Vivaldo! Sharp with great pose! I like the sky in the BG which gives the viewer the impression that this was shot against a river bank and also gives it some more depth.

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    Thanks guys appreciate comments. I am always ready to try something different if it will improve the image. I removed the sky, only took me two minutes, would love to here what you guys think. I am in two mind now, actually like them both TKS
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    Leave the sky! It adds a sense of place to the image and it looks just fine.

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    Funny how tastes go from person to person....I actually like the repost without it! No right or wrong, go with what you like and what your gut says. If you have it, try a version with more sky than your OP (about double the amount you have now). I just wish it was more than just a tease of an appearance...

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    All I say say is this is a phenomenal capture !!

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    I feel they both work nicely, more sky could also work very nicely. Thanks for comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofer Levy View Post
    . . . I like the sky in the BG which gives the viewer the impression that this was shot against a river bank and also gives it some more depth.
    I see the image through Ofer's eyes. But it's not as though Vivaldo's redo weren't a good image, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Brelsford View Post
    I really don't see why the inclusion of the sliver of sky is a problem. This is an arresting photo. Sure, the bird is large in the frame, but then, it's the "giant" kingfisher; the composition puts an exclamation point on the bigness of the bird.
    Dan is 100% right on. From ABP II: "If and object (in this case, the sky) is worth including in the frame, include all of it with a border around it." I would greatly prefer more sky than the clone stamp job.
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    Vivaldo, Can you please post the full frame original? The bird here is too tight in the frame for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    . . . I would greatly prefer more sky than the clone stamp job.
    Yet another possibility: clone in more sky. Why didn't I think of that?

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    With the image so tight that the veggies in the upper right intersect with the sky that is easier said than done.
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    Thanks Arthur, been way for a few days so couldn't post the original. I had lots more room to play with in this image. I do agree with your comments, more room and more sky instead would have worked better. Thanks again.
    Last edited by Vivaldo Damilano; 06-11-2011 at 05:30 AM.

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    Here a quick repost with sky included

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    Thanks Vivaldo. Crop. Added canvas. F 10 pixel Gaussian Blur wound up at 50% Opacity. illed new canvas with flipped Rectangular Marquee Tool Selection. BKGR clean-up with Patch Tool and Clone Stamp Tool.Ridge clean-up with Patch Tool. Eye Doctor work. Moved green plant with Quick Mask. All as detailed in Digital Basics. Whaddya think?

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    From ABP II: "If and object (in this case, the sky) is worth including in the frame, include all of it with a border around it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivaldo Damilano View Post
    Here a quick repost with sky included
    Too boxy. You still like to crop too tightly :). More blur on the BKGR might work....
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    Thanks very much for your time and help Arty. I will have to re-read ABPII and Digital Basic. I think your work on the BG is super, love the smoothness you managed to get. I also like the way you worked on the whole BG, instead of just working on left hand side of image. Excellent idea to move green plant. I also agree prefer your comp

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    I am glad that you liked :). Everything is in Digital Basics. but it takes time, study, practice, and a willingness to experiment to get really good.

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    Yes! I knew I'd prefer more sky than just a tease :-) Vivaldo, the KF looks great and the image was worth a re-work....
    Last edited by Daniel Cadieux; 06-11-2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason: typo

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    Thanks Dan and Arty appreciate help and tips. I love working with images, have alot of patience but still need the practice.

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