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    I chose to post this particular image as it shows the unique crossed bills of these birds. This is only the 2nd day I have seen a pair of crossbills at my feeders this year. This male is bright with his breeding colors.
    I cloned a few branches away.

    Canon 1D Mark IV, Canon EF 400 DO, 1.4 teleconverter, ISO 400, f5.6, 1/400, Exp. Comp. +0.67

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    think this might have benefited a bit from a little more DOF to get more of the bird sharp but still a really nice shot of a really interesting bird I have never seen before. Really enjoy the neutral background.

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    I have never seen a crossbill before either, really interesting. Really like the coloring, nice HA and comp. Agree about a bit more DOF. TFS Nancy.

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    Great view of the crossing mandibles!! Yes, more DOF would be great but the parts that need to be sharp (eye) are. It does seemingly need more sharpening for web display though. I am also not too crazy about the comp - a bit tight and the in-and-out of the frame placement of the perch is not ideal...do you have more room all around?

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    I do have more room and can change the cropping. I have a question about sharpening specifically for the web. Do I first reduce it to the smaller size to post here and then sharpen? And if so, how do I determine the proper amount from such a small image? I used to sharpen my image just once at the 100% view on my screen and then re-size for the web with no further sharpening. Then I read you should sharpen only when you have determined what you want to do with your image. So I am confused and would be glad to know more about this. Thanks.

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    Agree with the degree of field and sharpening comments, however, great capture of an interseting bird. I too would be interested in hearing opinions on Nancy's sharpening questions.

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    Hi Nancy, lovely colours on this guy, and as Dan stated, good view of the crossbill. Using Dan's suggestion of the crop, I would crop just below the feet, and add to the right.

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    Hi Nancy, Great representation of the crossbill and I like those variegated colours. I agree with the crop and sharpening suggestions.
    Will leave your question to the pros but somewhwere on BPN there is a thread discussing this point and I think the consensus was to sharpen after sizing for web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy Bell View Post
    I do have more room and can change the cropping. I have a question about sharpening specifically for the web. Do I first reduce it to the smaller size to post here and then sharpen? And if so, how do I determine the proper amount from such a small image? I used to sharpen my image just once at the 100% view on my screen and then re-size for the web with no further sharpening. Then I read you should sharpen only when you have determined what you want to do with your image. So I am confused and would be glad to know more about this. Thanks.
    Nancy, every image will be sharpened differently according to various factors (incl. size of subject in the frame, critical focus, final image size, etc...) but yes, generally it is better to additionally sharpen after resizing for web. It usually doesn't take much, but the difference can be big. In the repost I used USM: Amount=150, Radius=0.6, Threshold=0.
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    Daniel, that made a huge difference! I will add that step to my processing. Thank you!

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    You are welcome!

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    Good photo to begin with but the repost makes it pop. I was agreeing with all the comments for the need of a bit more DOF, but the repost makes that argument a little less obvious as the repost is excellent. Cool birds, I have only seen them once in my life and that was at Rocky Mountain NP.

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