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    wow! Ian - those water drops are incredible, along with the bird's sharp eye and head feathers. pretty mutilated fish, had he already taken a bite? beautiful exposure and detail.

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    Thanks, Pat. He actually stole the fish from a coot!

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    oh funny! coots are pretty ferocious, did he just walk over and grab it out of the coot's mouth? would have loved to have seen that... by the way, the egret's tail plumes are gorgeous - i didn't realize my window was cutting them off.

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    A nice action shot and very well exposed.

    If mine I might selectively clean up some of the water drops, partucularly the ones on and above the bird.

    Lots of detail and agree that the tail plume is very attractive.

    I am not sure what to suggest about the apparent cutting of the virtual feet. If the photo has been cropped perhaps there is something to be added back.

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    Great action shot! To me the fish appears to be spitting at the egret which accentuates the water drops and adds a lot of interest.

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    Great water drops and fish capture. Well exposed with good detail. Just a bit tight in the frame for my taste. I like the light, even though a little off to your left. In my experience with egrets, it seems that the light directly behind you tends to flatten out the details in the white, while having it a little off to one side helps, as it did here. Wonder if others have the same experience?

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    Ian, detail is nice and the action is good. I like the water droplets and good sharpness.

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    Ian: I'm in agreement with the others that like the water droplets as is. I also agree that it might be nicer to open the crop up a tad if possible. Personally, I don't think I'd go as far as trying to bring in virtual feet. I think it would add too much empty blue to the image. Great shot.

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    Thank you for commenting, folks. I have a small amount of real estate left and will try opening it up a bit.

    Please talk to me about 'virtual feet'. This isn't a concept I understand. If I open up on the bottom, I would get a reflection which doesn't add to the image.

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    Please talk to me about 'virtual feet'. This isn't a concept I understand. If I open up on the bottom, I would get a reflection which doesn't add to the image.
    Ian,

    Can you tell me which one your like and why?

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    Ian,

    Also a very nice image to explain what details are and how light direction and shadows contribute to details.

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    Hmmmmm ...

    Well, the detail seems sharper in #2 -- almost a little TOO sharp. As for the crop under the legs, I'm not sure which I like better. I'm thinking #2 because the foreground snow is a bit distracting in #1 whereas the fox's eyes draw me right in in #2, but I'm going back and forth between the two in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Cassell View Post
    Hmmmmm ...

    Well, the detail seems sharper in #2 -- almost a little TOO sharp. As for the crop under the legs, I'm not sure which I like better. I'm thinking #2 because the foreground snow is a bit distracting in #1 whereas the fox's eyes draw me right in in #2, but I'm going back and forth between the two in my mind.
    May be not a obvious example. Lets see if I can make this work with this image.
    Do you like this or one in the next pane?


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    Sid, on this one I definitely prefer #2. The cut-off legs hurt on the first. I'm not sure why this feels different to me than the fox images.

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    In between 2nd image and this image.

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    I prefer #3. I'm not wild about the OOF FG in #2 and don't think that much FG helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Cassell View Post
    I prefer #3. I'm not wild about the OOF FG in #2 and don't think that much FG helps.
    Well technically that OOF FG in #2 is what virtual legs is all about. To provide a sense of complete subject image makers leave space at the bottom even though subjects legs are not visible. I personally think virtual legs are essential in a good composition. Lets see where we stand if we get to revisit the topic in future again.

    Nice discussion Ian enjoyed it.

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    Thanks, Sid. I appreciate this very much. I'll be paying more attention to this in images here and in my own. This whole concept is new to me.

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