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    This shot was taken in some golden light early morning, the same 3 as Mark M below, mum is on the left & the other cub only comes in when the prey is down so the Killer handles pretty much everthing, he also pulled down a full grown male Impala that even some adults wouldn't takle, not bad for 12 mths old feeding brother & mum!!

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    Nicely done Ken, leaving no doubt as to who is the dominant one of this pair.
    You can bet he's also the same one leading the way with my baby tommie.
    Is this with Auto WB, if so (as mine is Auto) it seems different handling of WB between the D700 & D3s?
    Great lighting cond's nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Molloy View Post
    Nicely done Ken, leaving no doubt as to who is the dominant one of this pair.
    You can bet he's also the same one leading the way with my baby tommie.
    Is this with Auto WB, if so (as mine is Auto) it seems different handling of WB between the D700 & D3s?
    Great lighting cond's nonetheless.
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    Hi Mark,

    I never ever use Auto WB, i find it a bit useless in low light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken dyball View Post
    Hi Mark,

    I never ever use Auto WB, i find it a bit useless in low light.
    Yep, understand.
    It's certainly not perfect, but ACR comes in handy in that regard.


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    Taking 'nice' close ups is a trap we all fall into :D, but for me, these images really do show life as it really is. Perhaps not always so pleasing, however, I think it important to show images like this to try and keep a sense of perspective and they do play an important role. It good to see both images are different in style & content but fascinating to have the same family.

    I think Ken this could also work well like Marc's, in a pano crop, but also like it as presented.

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    I like the openess in this Ken. Having said that, I would maybe add a tad to the bottom, and take a tad off the top. Well captured.

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    Ken - nice light. I like that you show the expanse of the savannah while capturing the action.

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    Great image, light is excellent.

    I would agree on a possible Pano crop.

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    Great capture, Ken. I agree about the pano crop, as it will focus the viewers' eyes on the subjects. Regarding white balance, it doesn't matter if you are shooting raw files, as it is just a suggestion / starting point to work with. I much prefer to let the camera figure it all out, because I am going to change it anyway in post production. The problem with presets is the normal gap between color temps is too far, and thus not that specific anyway. Granted, a custom white balance can be nice but most likely more of a benefit to a studio photographer than a nature photographer. My thought is that white balance is actually a creative tool, and not a scientific tool. Just my $.02.

    I love the action shot, and I would love to see more!

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    Great action and light. I kind of like all the golden grass in the image. Gives a nice sense of place.

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    Hi Ken,

    A searing, wide shot showing the brutal reality of nature, including the training of younger predators.....I like it! The prairie looks intense as a backdrop for the kill and the action you captured makes me keep looking. I don't think I'd like it as a pano but when I take a little off the top by rolling it up my screen, I like it even better. Thanks.

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    P.S. Interesting comments on white balance. I totally agree with Andy Biggs....just a starting point to be adjusted later as necessary.

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    I like the crop as it shows emptiness of the veldt & conveys a sense of isolation. I think a different crop would destroy this sense especially when one considers that wildebeests are usually in a massive herd. Well captured & well presented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Biggs View Post
    Great capture, Ken. I agree about the pano crop, as it will focus the viewers' eyes on the subjects. Regarding white balance, it doesn't matter if you are shooting raw files, as it is just a suggestion / starting point to work with. I much prefer to let the camera figure it all out, because I am going to change it anyway in post production. The problem with presets is the normal gap between color temps is too far, and thus not that specific anyway. Granted, a custom white balance can be nice but most likely more of a benefit to a studio photographer than a nature photographer. My thought is that white balance is actually a creative tool, and not a scientific tool. Just my $.02.

    I love the action shot, and I would love to see more!
    Hi Andy, Thanks for the comments, & i totaly agree with what you say, but for me most of the time that starting point is fairly crude & even with presets importing to Lightroom still leaves me scratching my head on how to get the colour close to what i remembered it as. so getting it wright in camera really works better for me anyway.

    Cheers

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    so getting it wright in camera really works better for me anyway.
    Ensures a quality image in all respects, you become a better photographer and not a Harry Potter PS wizard.:D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    Ensures a quality image in all respects, you become a better photographer and not a Harry Potter PS wizard.:D
    He,He, :D:D Havn't hered that on before

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    we are seeing some lovely action shots at the moment this is no exception, well done...

    I really think a pano crop wud work just below the shadow line near top..and sliver off the RHS..

    well done

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    wonderful action and looks like this one can become a legend on the plains! gorgeous light...been pondering the pano crop suggested, but I think I prefer the OP with the space at the top which implies plains depth. Wouldn't mind seeing a pano crop as per Peter's suggestion for comparison :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter delaney View Post
    we are seeing some lovely action shots at the moment this is no exception, well done...

    I really think a pano crop wud work just below the shadow line near top..and sliver off the RHS..

    well done
    Here is a pano crop Just to compare to the op

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    Ken, I really like the OP for the added depth and feel it gives me for the expanse of the savanna. Excellent moment captured, composition and lighting. Outstanding!

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    I vote for the OP also.
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