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    I was very fortunate to happen upon the happy couple at Green Cay wetlands on my last day in FL over the holidays. This is a different image than the one I posted over at the other place.

    A slightly larger version is available here
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    Well done but way too light on my calibrated monitor. Lots of ways to fix. Below is one. (Multiply, reduce opacity, Curves, Selective Color.

    later and love, artie
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    Now I am puzzled, Artie. In my previous post of a GBH flight shot (the topside one) you recommended some S/H to lift the shadows on the neck. Here it seems you have made the shadows on the female's left wing almost as deep :confused: (on my calibrated monitor)???

    I see indeed that my original post was too light and washed out, but yours is looking way too dark, and overly contrasty on my monitor. Here's something in between:



    I added a HSL layer (+5 S, -5 L), and duped the image, set blending mode to Soft Light, adjusted opacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Martinec View Post
    Now I am puzzled, Artie. In my previous post of a GBH flight shot (the topside one) you recommended some S/H to lift the shadows on the neck. Here it seems you have made the shadows on the female's left wing almost as deep :confused: (on my calibrated monitor)???

    I see indeed that my original post was too light and washed out, but yours is looking way too dark, and overly contrasty on my monitor. Here's something in between:


    Agree that your first post was way washed out. On my re-posted version, there is still plenty of detail in the female's underwing. On my monitor, your re-post, though much-improved, still needs more punch IMHO. Lastly, we are working here with JPEGs where such adjustments are on the iffy side (as compared to when working with TIFFS...)

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    Great capture of this moment, Emil. On my monitor something between Artie's and your second post would look best. Maybe a bit more sharpening, too?

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    amazing moment !! I like the most the second treatment of Emil Martinec.
    My photo monitor is only software calibrated, but the Artie's post-process seems too dark on the right side of the birds.
    I have to probably do a hardware calibration of my montor, if the Artie's one is spot on??!

    Emil, what is the lens? I see only a 1.4 x stacked with other 1.4 x - am I right?
    Very fine detail for such an extender combination.

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    Amazing photo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolay Staykov - shotlandetsa View Post
    amazing moment !! I like the most the second treatment of Emil Martinec.
    My photo monitor is only software calibrated, but the Artie's post-process seems too dark on the right side of the birds.
    I have to probably do a hardware calibration of my montor, if the Artie's one is spot on??!

    Emil, what is the lens? I see only a 1.4 x stacked with other 1.4 x - am I right?
    Very fine detail for such an extender combination.

    Oops! Lens was the 500/4.

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    Dear Emil,
    What a great shot, talking about being at the right place at the right time with the right equipment! Very Impressive! Love it! Thank you for sharing and for the other comments and wonderful opportunity for newbies like me to learn. Also someone, pease clarify what is "still needs more punch IMHO" and is HSL Layer = Hue Saturation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stern View Post
    Also someone, pease clarify what is "still needs more punch IMHO" and is HSL Layer = Hue Saturation?
    HSL layer is the layer adjustment for Hue/Saturation/Lightness in the layers drop-down menu. I bumped the master Saturation slider to +5 and the Lightness slider to -5.

    "still needs more punch IMHO": IMHO is internet shorthand for In My Humble Opinion. As for "punch", it refers to the visual power that comes with exaggerating the contrast and color saturation of an image, which is often referred to as making the image more "punchy".

    I tend to be a bit more conservative than some in boosting the contrast and saturation of my images. It's a personal taste (IMHO ;)), and my taste is to be truer to the bird as I saw it in the field. The pair I was fortunate to capture looked in the field very much like my repost (my initial processing erring too much on the side of lightening the shadows and too subdued contrast). My repost may be not so dramatic as Artie's treatment, but it's what I think I'd like to achieve with this image, and I thank him for putting me on the right track.

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    Dear Emil
    Thank you very much for the feedback!
    Michael

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