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    My first post here!

    Was lucky to witness the whole drama of this youngster being chased off by a larger one for the best fishing spot!
    The day was cloudy.

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    Shreyas

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    Very nice image Shreyas. Very nice pose and great action well captured. Since subject is more vertical I would go for a vertical crop and try to lock the viewer attention into by cropping right next to OOF bear in the background. Just a personal thought. Something similar to this. Also I added 4% photo filter to warm it up and levels adjustment to brighten the image.

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    Welcome to BPN and excellent first image , repost by Sid is great improvement ,
    TFS

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    Sid's crop suggestion is great, but I am going to be a bit controversial here and criticise the colours/light in his repost (sorry Sid I know a JPEG is not a good starting point).
    It looks just a little warm for me so I have had a go, also lightened around the eyes a little.

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    I like Sid's repost, crop helps. As for Ken's repost, I like the eye lightening, but on my screen the color of the bear seems to have a yellow/green tint. I gotta give the nod to Sid's. (unless my monitor is off and it could be)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Watkins View Post
    Welcome to BPN

    Sid's crop suggestion is great, but I am going to be a bit controversial here and criticise the colours/light in his repost (sorry Sid I know a JPEG is not a good starting point).
    It looks just a little warm for me so I have had a go, also lightened around the eyes a little.
    Yep.. He needs an eye doctor work.

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    Hi Shreyas, what a good shot for a first post. The position of the front bears paw is excellent, and helps create a dynamic feel to this image for me. I also think you did well to get this frame with just a little separation between the BG bear and the front one. I agree with other members on the vertical crop. I guess I would like contrast and colour somewhere between your OP and Sid and Kens reposts.
    Well done with this
    cheers
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    Hi Shreyas and welcome.

    These guys are awesome and having just spent some time with them, they are also great characters too. Regarding the colour I would agree that it is somewhere between both yours and Sids posts, and certainly, you need to upon up around the area of the eyes and tip of the nose. I find your 'original post' (OP) more reflective/natural in colour for the water & grass bank, especially as it looks an overcast day. Personally I would like to see a fraction more space below and a little less above, but again, cropping is very personal. Trust you had a good time, look forward to more.

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    Sheryas - welcome. I really like the position of the paw and the splash. You did well to capture the pursuing bear as well. I agree with the others on the vertical crop being a much stronger image. I was in Katmai at Brooks in July and the eyes are tough to deal with because they are so dark and sunken.

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    I love the behavioral moment you captured! The frantic look on the youngster is accented by the way his ears are so erect with the hair spiking out! I also like the OOF adult as a solid presence in the BG. Others have commented well on other issues. Completely agree that bear eyes are very tough as they are small and sunken.

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    @Sid, I agree with the crop suggestion and the work required around the eyes. It does need a new set of eyes to point things out, and am loving the suggestions!
    I too tried to play with the colors but apparently it looked alright on my lapotop's screen/graphics, and hence the variations. Surely my laptop does not have the best visual output as it keep changing the view from different angles :o
    However, I'd agree with Ken's repost in terms of coloring, while adding a tad-bit of Cyan to the reds. Will repost the outputs soon.
    @ Grant and Steve, thanks for the input!
    @ Rachel, I was in Katmai for the first 2 weeks of July, and did not see the sun for the whole of the first week. It was pretty challenging to get the right contrasts in the shadowed regions of the animal due to the overcasts.

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    You are a fine story teller, Shreyas! Well done.

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    Folks, here is my edit as per the suggestions made. What do you think!?

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    Shreyas

    Your repost hits the spot

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    Personally I think if you go to Adjustments, > Saturation and drop the Red say about -10 and Yellow between -20 to -30 as Canon tends to be higher in these areas compared to Nikon who work on the more colder side. You can also see that there is a certain amount of Magenta in the colour of the water too, you may need to go to Selective colour to remove the slight cast here too if you wish.
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    Shreyas,
    Personally, I would try to get the white balance as close to the original scene, though warming up may at times look better. The pose is very nice. You were in the right position. The vertical composition is better than the original post. A horizontal would also work. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    Personally I think if you go to Adjustments, > Saturation and drop the Red say about -10 and Yellow between -20 to -30 as Canon tends to be higher in these areas compared to Nikon who work on the more colder side. You can also see that there is a certain amount of Magenta in the colour of the water too, you may need to go to Selective colour to remove the slight cast here too if you wish.
    Thanks for the suggestions, Steve! Will try those adjustments. Have also started to realize that ppl shooting with the prime lenses DO have an edge in capturing the right brightness and contrast, as I compared the pics with a gentleman shooting with the Canon 500mm under the same light conditions. I started off with Nikon sometime back but quickly moved to Canon, but never got a chance to compare the results of both outfits, as you've mentioned.

    @ Sabyasachi, again, thanks for the input! I'm going to post another one from this series so as to provide you folks with a new image for critique, and will use the suggestions made here!

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    Love the image and the story it tells. I actually prefer Ken's repost in Pane #4 to yours in Pane #13 as his looks a bit brighter (but hard to tell when not side by side). Am looking forward to seeing more.
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    Great action. Like the water coming off the paw and the look the bear is giving. Also like the cropped version as well.

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