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    Bosque del Apache--crane pools in early light. It was 9 deg. the morning this was taken. What are they looking at??
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    Bonnie:

    This is a fun one. I think they are looking for the water.

    Like the matching head angles and gazes.

    There is quite a pronounced color cast here. Certainly some from the early morning light. I corrected the color cast with the average color blur tech. at 85%.

    I think it looked more realistic, but you were there, so you get to make the final artistic decision.

    Makes me chuckle!

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    Thanks, Randy! I like your repost as well. It is hard to remember exactly how it was. It was really golden. I think yours pops a bit more.
    One of the things about pp these images is I think one should sit on them for a bit and come back to them. I almost always
    see the colors different if I do that.

    One other thing that could have messed me up...I have a wide gamut monitor. I always have to adjust for the screen -proofing for the monitor when I process for the web---and I cannot get the exact color sometimes that is in the RGB or ProPhoto image. If I do not do that the image is too warm and over saturated.
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    I like Randy's repost, although I had no issues with the original. I love all the good HAs, and the combination of warm and cool hues make for a nice contrast. The is a white reflection in the water near the right bird, I'm not sure where it is coming from but I would eliminate it if it were mine.

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    Bonnie,

    I love the soft light and the warm colors it produced in your original post. The similar poses of the birds add interest to the image. In this case, I think stopping down a bit would have allowed you to get all of the birds completely sharp. I would have liked to see more seperation between the cranes and the similarly colored vegetation in the bg, but that would have required a higher angle and that was probably very difficult from your location.
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    Hi Bonnie, I think they are looking for Corn :D

    I like the repost, nice image, the attention of the birds is interesting.

    You mention your monitor, but you didnt say if it is calibrated? I assume it is? If you are getting a cast with finished images, try to re-calibrate. Sometimes in my experience the first time isnt always best.

    One thing you can do is right before you post something is to open internet explorer (most popular), firefox (better) and chrome (the best) and just drag the image into the window and see how it will look. This gives you a good idea of what others will see.

    Robert

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    I like both versions. Getting four birds with good head angles in a nice arrangement is a feat! Only the rear bird could use a bit of selective sharpening on the head for me. Stopping down a bunch would have sharpened up the BKGR. Speaking of which, did you do anything to the BKGR Bonnie?

    BTW, I love this one.

    ps: Great and a bit ironic to see O'Toole and Neiger posting to the same thread. But wonderful.
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    Bonnie. I love this one! I think Randy's repost is great. You could even go some where in between the two also. Great details and exposure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert O'Toole View Post
    Hi Bonnie, I think they are looking for Corn :D

    I like the repost, nice image, the attention of the birds is interesting.

    You mention your monitor, but you didnt say if it is calibrated? I assume it is? If you are getting a cast with finished images, try to re-calibrate. Sometimes in my experience the first time isnt always best.

    One thing you can do is right before you post something is to open internet explorer (most popular), firefox (better) and chrome (the best) and just drag the image into the window and see how it will look. This gives you a good idea of what others will see.

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    Hi Robert, thanks for commenting. Yes, the monitor is calibrated. Great for printing. But somehow, in the conversion from ACR or LR the srgb profile gets wierd. I can convert in DPP and not have the color shift. I have researched it a lot--and have not found any real answers other than to proof for the monitor in ps at the end of my post processing when I am going to use the image on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    I like both versions. Getting four birds with good head angles in a nice arrangement is a feat! Only the rear bird could use a bit of selective sharpening on the head for me. Stopping down a bunch would have sharpened up the BKGR. Speaking of which, did you do anything to the BKGR Bonnie?

    BTW, I love this one.

    ps: Great and a bit ironic to see O'Toole and Neiger posting to the same thread. But wonderful.
    Hi Artie, thanks for your comments. Yeah--no kiddin' it is hard to get a group all looking the right way. In this instance, of course there was only a fleeting amount of time when the light was like this.
    I did blur the bg in this image--the original is a lot sharper. I removed some hot spots, poop, and a bird that was behind looking the wrong way.

    Thanks so much!! :)

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    Thanks Daniel, Jim, and Denise for commenting on this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    I like both versions. Getting four birds with good head angles in a nice arrangement is a feat! Only the rear bird could use a bit of selective sharpening on the head for me. Stopping down a bunch would have sharpened up the BKGR. Speaking of which, did you do anything to the BKGR Bonnie?

    BTW, I love this one.

    ps: Great and a bit ironic to see O'Toole and Neiger posting to the same thread. But wonderful.
    Artie,

    This was made with a 500mm + 1.4xTc wide open (F5.6). I think at F8 or so, the last bird would have been sharp. If this caused too much detail in the bg, the bg can always be blurred a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Neiger View Post
    Artie,

    This was made with a 500mm + 1.4xTc wide open (F5.6). I think at F8 or so, the last bird would have been sharp. If this caused too much detail in the bg, the bg can always be blurred a bit.
    I hope to go back again this year--maybe I'll get a chance to try again. Definitely a learning curve--on how to get it right! Thanks guys!:)

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