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    VinceRossi
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    Here is what I think is a good pose. However, once again too fay away. The shadows are wrong and there seems to be a WHITE BURN OUT on his right wing. Does anyone know what causes that.

    Shot this bird at the Forsythe Reserve Briganteeen division, NJ. If anyone ever goes there in the summer, make sure you have ever bit of your body covered with clothing, no matter how hard it is and shielded in some form or another with bug spray. I got BIT by so many GREEN Head Flies that three days later I am still itching and uncomfortable. Does anyone else have this problem and what type of BUG SPRAY do the use?

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    Vince,

    Firstly on the bugs - I use Deet. It should be available in any good outdoor shop - it is on this side of the Atlantic. If it is not available with this brand name then the active ingredient is Diethyltoluamide - it is used but a lot of army's around the world. The dilution I get is 50%. Any higher and it will start disolving your camera if you get some on it. But it works.

    Now to the shot. I think it looks over exposed to me. Have you looked at the histogram or at the RGB values on the whiles. I expect they are blown. I think you are correct in your own finding, you are too far away and then when you do a large crop you are getting the the limit of the image. If you had under exposed the image slightly then you could hvae done some work in PS to bring back certain parts of the image leaving the whiltes not blown. But with bein gso far away, every blemish and noise will be magnified and IMHO this is the main problem here.

    I will now say that I am fairly new to this but as Artie says if you don't get stuck in and give your views then you don't learn and I don't learn. Have a look at the othe rcomments and make up your own mind.

    TFS and keep the coming

    Michael

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    Vince, Good overview by Michael and touched a number of areas I was looking at. It seems that you know alot of the flaws already. The light angle was off with the head being very dark. The light was harsh and contrasty and the large crop seems to have added alot of noise to the image. Something odd about the blue line where a good part of it is soft with a small area that is sharp....

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    Michael, Thanks for the comments. I agree with you in addition to my own negatives about the picture. Below I have posted what I am up against in NJ they seem to have some distance limitation on where the nesting areas for the visiting Ospreys. I think it is about 200-250 away. And with my limited gear it make sit tough to get close. That is why I have to crop so much. I am standing on a road and directly in front of me is marsh land and water then marsh land again AND A LOT OF BUGS. THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THE BUGS SPRAY. Oh how I wish I could move to a better place for finding birds etc. :)

    I know what you mean about posting. It is a good learning tool even if we disagree at times. It is kind of hard to dispute the opinions and other pros or advice from the moderators. BUT I guess everyone has a different view of things. I have also started posting more because I have noticed the percentages of people that respond just doesn't add up to those that view. In other words a lot views and very few responses.

    THAT OSPREY IS MUCH FURTHER AWAY THEN IT LOOKS IN THE PICUTRE BELOW.
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    [QUOTE=VinceRossi;535242Oh how I wish I could move to a better place for finding birds etc. :)[/QUOTE]

    vince, do you mean to tell me that there are no shorebirds at brigantine? that cant be that much furthur to drive!! you do have a very challenging situation here. might cut my losses and try another place!!

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    Hi Vince - agree with the above comments - if there is no way to get closer at this location - I would concentrate my efforts elsewhere. Doesn't matter what you do - you are up against it here.
    Want a different result - do something different.
    Look into how to get your over exposure waring on the camera's LCD screen - will flash when there are highlights that are over exposed.
    :)

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    Hi Vince Would compose the image for a small bird in frame with the perch .. nothing wrong with that and would give you a pleasing image.


    Another possibility is focusing manually on the perch and try to get the bird landing with a good wing position, then have the perch and lots of room.... can make it work !!!

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    Hey Vince,I was at Forsythe a couple of weeks ago (I own a place in Little Egg Harbor, not far from there. I have owned the place for years, but just discovered Forsythe and was there almost every morning for the 2 weeks I was back east). I took a few osprey images and gave up because of the distance (My "Long" lens is my 400 with a TC), and concentrated instead on closer birds along the Wildlife Drive in Oceanville -- Willets, Skimmers, Clapper Rails, Cormorants, Terns, etc. There's lots to shoot there with a shorter lens.

    As for the green heads -- I find that Deep Woods Off works reasonably well. I usually get a couple who break through and bite me anyway, but it's not too bad.

    Ian
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    Another thing you could try, could you get closer to the ospreys as they fly? You can try in-flight images if you get the birds closer that way.

    I know how it is working with a 70-300 (i use the nikon 70 300), you are just at the boundary of reach... :(

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