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    Has anyone noticed a difference when they convert to sRGB, Save for web and the end result?

    I have been using CS4 for almost a year and it's been fine, the web image almost mirroring the RGB file. Now I find that when I post the image it is more saturated?:confused: To my knowledge no settings have been changed and with a new monitor (approx $1800) all calibrated I am still getting the same results. I now de saturate by about -20 before hosting.

    Any ideas guys? :eek::eek::eek:

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    Steve,
    I assume when you say RGB, you mean something like Adober RGB 1998, correct? If so, then it is natural for a change to happen because sRGB has a smaller gamut. Often results get clipped, e.g. blacks and highlights because of that smaller gamut. In a color managed work flow, the less extreme colors in the middle of the color space will likely change imperceptibly if at all.

    Could this be what you are seeing?

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    Thanks Roger, but I have not had an issue at all until now. :confused:

    Back to the drawing board I guess.

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    Thanks Roger, but I have not had an issue at all until now. :confused:

    Back to the drawing board I guess.

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    Have you tried to restore the default settings in PS?

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    Hi Axel are you referring to these?

    I have found that anything punchy in colour needs to be -20 saturation before save for web as this is almost back to RGB look, however with the amount of monitors calibrated/non calibrated does it make a difference?

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    The normal recommendation (Tim Grey & others) is to uncheck the Desaturate Monitor Colors box and leave it off.

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    Try this:


    • Press and hold Alt+Control+Shift (Windows) or Option+Command+Shift (Mac OS) as you start Photoshop. You are prompted to delete the current settings.
    • (Mac OS only) Open the Preferences folder in the Library folder, and drag the Adobe Photoshop CS Settings folder to the Trash.
      New Preferences files are created the next time you start Photoshop.

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    I don't see the 'unsynchronized' message in the upper left on my computer.

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    Yes, I didn't notice it either, wonder if that is because it is Custom?

    Will take a look, but off again for the next 12 days but on email so may have to wait.:(

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    When viewed in applications that aren't color-managed (like IrfanView and many web browsers),
    AdobeRGB images will usually look duller, less saturated, than sRGB. That's the reason for using sRGB for web images.
    Inside color-managed applications (like Photoshop), AdobeRGB will usually look just as saturated as sRGB.

    Untick the box for "Desaturate monitor colors ..." That won't help you. The rest of your color settings are OK.

    Since you use AdobeRGB as your working space, try "Save for web" when saving for the web. In that
    dialog box, be sure to tick box for "Convert to sRGB." This will put the saved image in sRGB and leave
    your psd file in AdobeRGB.

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    Hi David, totally agree about the flat, dull look.

    All images are RGB as that is what i work in. after completing the worked file I will flatten, crop and re save at an 8bit JPEG. I then would covert to profile, sRGB, then Save for Web (optimise 200k) etc.. But I have notice this BIG colour shift. Just need to play I think.

    BTW as I have Customised my Colour settings compared to PS set version ie American settings, would that come up with the note top left, your colour settings are not colour synch? See screen grab above thread 5

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    I would reset it to default settings and see if the problem persists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    BTW as I have Customised my Colour settings compared to PS set version ie American settings, would that come up with the note top left, your colour settings are not colour synch? See screen grab above thread 5
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    That warning comes up if you have other Adobe applications (such as Lightroom) on your computer. See this note.

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    Ok, did what you suggested Axel and reset. As soon as i reset to Custom it then flags up as per the text top left.

    David, followed your Note and this is what I got?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    David, followed your Note and this is what I got?
    I think you need to have Adobe Creative Suite for color sync to work. If you have, say, just Photoshop and Bridge, you can check the color settings in each separately. If you aren't having any color issues between the two applications, ignore the warning. Photoshop is full of little warnings that don't mean much of anything.

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    Thanks David, I guess on reflection and pondering on this, plus the replies...

    If the original settings were 'factory' ones, and had not been changed until a while ago and that was the time I noticed it the change then I guess I was running sRGB on one screen and therefore would not notice the difference until I changed it. If that makes sense?

    The new screen has a facility to change the mode of the screen ie from RGB to sRGB, guess that is the way to go. Having two screens running parrallel can be rather confusing I guess.

    Appreciate your time & thoughts gentlemen, I think it will be interesting to see the response to my postings, colourwise that is.:D

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