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    Hi Everyone,
    Need help!!!
    I have taken the liberty of posting the next frame in the pane below. My question is this; which do you prefer, the one with the partial wing and foot showing, or the one with just the foot? Or should I crop them out altogether?? If I were to do this the story would be different IMO. Mods, if the second post is not OK, please remove!!
    Sanibel Pier last February.
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    Hope the whites are more to people's liking :D
    Look forward to your C & C's.
    Best regards to all,
    Nicki
    PS Not sure if you have the term 'bovver boy' in the USA - just ask and all will be explained!!!!!

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    Here is the other version.
    Thanks !

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    Hi Nicki. If it were me I'd have to lose both the foot and wing. To me the story's not strong enough with just the body parts. Of the two, I like the second best. The splash coming off the back foot does it for me. Plus I think I'm seeing a bit better detail in the whites.

    Looks like there were a lot of models on the cat walk. ;)

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    Hi Nicki, I agree with Bob that the story isn't strong enough to warrant the other bird. I also like the splash on the rear foot which adds some interest. I also like the head and neck position on the first better.

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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback :)
    Bob, there was certainly a lot of catwalk behaviour going on that day :eek::D
    Best,
    Nicki

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    Hi Nicki.....I like the first post better. Your whites are looking mighty fine to me. Great Shot!

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    Okay Nicki...now tell the real true story....he was chasing Supermodel...so you have to leave the foot and wing in ;)

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    Nicki, I agree with the above comments. I would prefer #1 with the left bird totally cropped out. Whites look great to me.
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    Hi nicki - first one for me - think I would also crop out the LHS bird - whites look great - like the pose and acton.
    A little CW rotation??
    Looking good!!!

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    Thanks so much guys - all comments and suggestions much appreciated and will be duly considered :)
    Best to all,
    Ncki

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    I vote for the first post, the chase is on. And what is a Bower Boy?

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    The problem with the foot in the 2nd one is that you clipped it at the joint.... You needed another inch of leg to make it effective even if it meant getting rid of a wingtip above.... Do you have some more leg to show us?:)
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    Myer, the term 'bovver boy' was originally coined to describe trouble-making white youths, usually skinheads, but is now usually understood to mean 'troublemaker.' It is slang for 'bother boy'!!
    Artie, you'll ruin my reputation yet :eek: I have no more leg even for you !!!!:D This is full frame, the bird got away, and alas I was not quick enough...could also have done with less glass - next purchase, 70-200!!!
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    Be sure to get the f/4. BTW, you could borrow an inch of leg from the first pane image...
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    Hi Nicki,
    I agree with Ken, he's chasing supermodel!! and I prefer the pose in the second image as it emphasizes the chase mode...add the extra inch of leg from the first as suggested by Artie and you will have a winner in my book.
    As always, I love your vision.
    Katie

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    Artie, I was planning on getting the f/4 - it seems to be a very popular lens. I might just do as you suggested and borrow some leg...
    Katie, great to here from you and thank you for your kind words :) I'm sure you are right - Supermodel is definitely being chased :D
    Best,
    Nicki

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