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    Default Austalian Magpie

    I took this yesterday afternoon on the way back from another Shorebirds session at the local reef.

    It's a common enough bird here, but not one I've had much fortune with photographing.

    I was hoping to get some ideas on composition. I'm not really excited about this shot, but I'm not sure why either! :o

    Canon 400, 300mm L + 1.4tc, ISO 200 F5.6, 1/1000, Tripod. Av mode, Evaluative metering.
    PP: Cropped approx 20%, SH, USM.


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    Hi Mark

    Composition looks fine, I think there is something about not making a square crop that draws negative attention. I like cropping to the best for the image and this seem to be the best !!!

    I like the low angle and pose, just needed softer light since its one tough bird !! You did control the exposure well. About all I would have suggested is going to ISO 400 for an extra shutter speed. Noise (quality) wise don't think you will see a difference and I'm finding the extra speed making sharper images. For flight trying to get to 1/2500 any time possible !!! I like it a lot !!!

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    Hi Mark, Nice low angle of an interesting subject. Agree with Al's points but felt the bird was a bit close to the edges of the frame. I extended the left and right sides. There seemed to be a slight color caste which I removed and added some S/H to the white on the wing and neck to bring out a bit more detail.(also on the body which in hindsight would tone down just a little) I also dodged the eye to lighten it. I also took out the faint weed in the back...

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    Hi Mark - lots to like here, as already mentioned (Good HA and eye contact) - the contrasting colours blue of the sky and green of the grass is appealing.
    Daves repost does improve - was too tight RHS - Tough in anything but soft light.
    IMHO ONLY - common subjects really have to look for a situation that makes the oridinary into the extra-ordinary - be it a stunning BG or pose.
    Keep em coming :)

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    Hello Mark,
    The low angle really appeals to me here. I do like the repost as I feel that the original is a bit tight. The eye is better in the repost as well.
    Best,
    Nicki

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred Forns View Post
    Hi Mark

    Composition looks fine, I think there is something about not making a square crop that draws negative attention. I like cropping to the best for the image and this seem to be the best !!!

    I like the low angle and pose, just needed softer light since its one tough bird !! You did control the exposure well. About all I would have suggested is going to ISO 400 for an extra shutter speed. Noise (quality) wise don't think you will see a difference and I'm finding the extra speed making sharper images. For flight trying to get to 1/2500 any time possible !!! I like it a lot !!!
    Thanks Alfred. I very rarely every use a square crop, which in hyndsight probably what was concerning me. I usually like to have some space in front of the bird. I'll give ISO400 next a try session and see if that improves.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMills View Post
    Hi Mark, Nice low angle of an interesting subject. Agree with Al's points but felt the bird was a bit close to the edges of the frame. I extended the left and right sides. There seemed to be a slight color caste which I removed and added some S/H to the white on the wing and neck to bring out a bit more detail.(also on the body which in hindsight would tone down just a little) I also dodged the eye to lighten it. I also took out the faint weed in the back...
    I like your repost Dave, the lighter image and extra space look really nice. The SH work on the white feathers has made a big difference.
    What was the colour caste? I can't seem to see it in the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Peters View Post
    Hi Mark - lots to like here, as already mentioned (Good HA and eye contact) - the contrasting colours blue of the sky and green of the grass is appealing.
    Daves repost does improve - was too tight RHS - Tough in anything but soft light.
    IMHO ONLY - common subjects really have to look for a situation that makes the oridinary into the extra-ordinary - be it a stunning BG or pose.
    Keep em coming :)
    Thanks Lance, I agree about common birds, which is why I don't spend very much time with Fairy-wrens! ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicki Gwynn Jones View Post
    Hello Mark,
    The low angle really appeals to me here. I do like the repost as I feel that the original is a bit tight. The eye is better in the repost as well.
    Best,
    Nicki
    Thanks for viewing and commenting.

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    Hi Mark, It looked a bit yellowish to me but nothing major...

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    Thanks Dave.

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    Thanks Lance, I agree about common birds, which is why I don't spend very much time with Fairy-wrens! ;)


    Ill swap you some magpies (I have plenty) for some fairy wrens (dont have none).

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    While this may be common for an Aussie, it sure is not for the Americans or the rest of the world. :D I'd rather see more common Aussie birds than the same old kites and eagles from the northern hemisphere. :) In the middle of carolling and less square crop would have been still better though Mark. Nice split between fore and backgrounds.

    Magpies are better than wrens in my book anyway. Smarter, more inquisitive and their calls leave the wrens' for dead. ;)

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