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    I just have a question not being a highly technical person, but why is the beak not sharp. It seems to be in the same focal plane as the eye and I thought 1/2000 s would be enough to freeze any movement. Maybe I was too close??
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    Hi Jackie

    I think the white spot on the beak is creating an optical illusion by concentrating your eye to it. Also I gave it 2 passes of Curve default linear contrast which is very minimal.

    In my eyes (Not the best) I think everything looks sharp.

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    Hi Jackie, First off nice composition, lighting, and a pleasing backround. To my eye the upper beak doesn't appear that soft. I agree, shooting at 1/2000 you should stop any action that was done by the beaks movement. F/5 has a shallow depth and the upper beak at the time of shooting might not of been on the same exact plane. I must admit I can't be sure of the answer...

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    Jackie, is focus point on the eye. Beak looks a little out of plane but not sure I can answer the question. Gus has a good point, let's see what Al and Lance say - cool question and nice picture. Great eye, detail and solid exposure techs.

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    As distance to the subject increases, DOF increases. --- AND VICE VERSA!!
    As f-stop increases, DOF increases.
    As focal length increases, DOF decreases.
    As sensor/film size increases, DOF decreases.

    If you were relatively close F5 may not have been enough DOF - Even though it now appears as if they are on the same plane. I dont find it that far OOF - doesnt worry me - love the eye on these guys - composition looks good and nice light.
    I like it!!

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    I like the capture, the eye looks great, also like the yellows and detail.

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    Very nice pose Jackie!!! love the sharpness and details in the eye, did well! Agree with more dof where possible.
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    Very nice image Jackie. Looks fine to me. If you're really not sure, there is one thing you can do. Come back down and photograph another one...... Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Waas View Post
    Very nice image Jackie. Looks fine to me. If you're really not sure, there is one thing you can do. Come back down and photograph another one...... Congrats!


    .... that is the answer Jackie :)

    In looking at the bird I don't think the eye and tip of beak are in the same plane? Also if you look close the point of focus seems to be around the base of the beak. Check out a depth of field chart for some numbers, at this distance we don't get much even stopping down a lot !!

    Love the bg and pose, just wish for a slightly different light angle to light up the back of the head !!!

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    Thanks for all the responses. I find DOF difficult, almost measures in mm's it seems to me. I guess I must come down next year:)

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    Hi Jackie. Hope you enjoy your trip next year. To me the beak doesn't look very far out of focus, but it seems it may be angling slightly toward you and at that distance it wouldn't take much. I like the image as is.

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    the cormies are still here waiting for you!! you are getting picky! it does look good to me. i love that bg. the blue really sets it off nicely!!

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    Not picky Harold just want some solid shots:D:eek:

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    You must have been close!
    Many times I have gotten close to some of the birds and found that an f/7 wasn't enough to get all of the bird in focus. For me DOF is a difficult thing to judge. Even with a slight turn of the head the beak can fall out of f/5 range.
    That said, the repost does look sharp.
    I like the compostition very much. The detail in the eye is incredible.
    We have cormorants here in the spring/summer but have never been able to be this close. Didn't realize what a beautiful bird it can be.

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