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    Canon EOS 40D, Sigma 50-500mm hand-held, 1/320sec(av mode), f/6.3, ISO400

    While being content with the image to some extent, i really would like some advice/tips on improving the BG here.

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    Nice work. I like the pose and the open beak.

    I'm seeing a red/yellow cast. In the green grass, the red levels are higher than green, so that's a pretty good indication of a cast.
    In green grass, the G percentage is typically highest.

    In addition to correcting that, I would mask out the subject and reduce saturation in the background a little to bring the
    subject out more. The mask will also allow you to adjust the subject separately. Perhaps also apply a bit of lens blur (not G/blur)
    to the background to smooth out some of the edgy bokeh.




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    Hi Angad - David has worked his magic once again :) Nice one David - The repost is spot on the money IMHO.
    Like the low shooting angle and the open beak pose - might enhance the yellows a little in the beak even in the repost - just my personal taste though.
    Looking forward to seeing more :)

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    Nice capture Angad... David's repost is right on. I do agree with Lance and would up the yellow in the beak. Congrats on a very nice image.

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    Very nice image to start with, and David's repost looks great with the bg and cast modifications.

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    Thanks a lot David, the image looks fabulous. I have not come across the option of Lens Blur in PS 7.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angad Achappa View Post
    Thanks a lot David, the image looks fabulous. I have not come across the option of Lens Blur in PS 7.0
    Lens blur wasn't introduced until CS, which came next after PS7. For blurring backgrounds, it is superior to Gaussian blur for several reasons but mainly because of the way it works with layer masks. Where G-blur will produce halos around the subject, lens blur will leave clean edges with no halo.

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    Think Dr. Dave's :) repost did the trick with the BG. Nice pose.

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    Nice capture. A great pose, love the open beak. The re-post nailed it!

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    Great pose and compostion As above repost really helped
    Two question to Dr Dave
    Why lens blur instead of G blur
    What cause the cast in the first place?

    TFS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Rozema View Post
    Great pose and compostion As above repost really helped
    Two question to Dr Dave
    Why lens blur instead of G blur
    When you blur the background, you need to mask out the subject/foreground so that doesn't get blurred. If you do that and apply G-blur, the pixels behind the mask get blurred, and that creates halos that show around the edge of the mask.

    But if you do the same thing with lens blur, the pixels behind the mask aren't blurred; thus, no halos show around the edge of the mask. In the lens blur dialog box, there's a "layer mask" option you choose to make the filter avoid the masked pixels.



    What cause the cast in the first place?

    TFS
    Ray
    Could be camera settings, lighting, or mistakes in post-processing -- whatever knocks white balance off. Color casts aren't always a bad thing, of course. When you shoot in a golden sunset, you generally want to preserve that golden color cast.

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    Love the image and the repost makes it sing!
    Also Thanks to Dave for post processing tips....I will begin using them soon myself.

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    Thanks Dr Dave

    Ray

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    Thanks Dr. Dave for that detailed explanation, is there any other alternative to lens blur for PS 7.0? I did come across a few filters, but wasn't sure as to which one to download.
    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angad Achappa View Post
    Thanks Dr. Dave for that detailed explanation, is there any other alternative to lens blur for PS 7.0? I did come across a few filters, but wasn't sure as to which one to download.
    Regards,
    Angad
    Yes, there's a way to blur the background with G-blur and not produce halos, but it's a little more involved than masking. You'll find a tutorial here.

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    Dave....The lens blur dialog is new to me. Any suggestions for getting started with some of these settings...radius? blade curvature?....Threshold? shape??
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Miller View Post
    Dave....The lens blur dialog is new to me. Any suggestions for getting started with some of these settings...radius? blade curvature?....Threshold? shape??
    Thanks!
    The only slider I mess with is radius, and the effect of that will be obvious when you do it. It's just like radius in Gaussian blur: larger radius = more blurring. I leave the other settings at their defaults. The main thing in that dialog is the "layer mask" option to prevent halos around a masked subject.

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