Just playing around down the park - what could I have done better here??
D3
200-400VR Wth 1.4X Converter
F5.6
1/8000th
Aperture Priority
Matrix Metering
Handheld
Manual Flash @ 1/1
cropped a tad and sharpened a tad.
Fire away :)
What's to be improved here??
Just playing around down the park - what could I have done better here??
D3
200-400VR Wth 1.4X Converter
F5.6
1/8000th
Aperture Priority
Matrix Metering
Handheld
Manual Flash @ 1/1
cropped a tad and sharpened a tad.
Fire away :)
Lance, I don't see anything to be improved. I would prob tone down the whites, but that could just be my monitor. I don't think they are overexposed, just really bright.
great job. love the eye sharpness.
Hi Lance, Very nice colors, BG, and HA. Exposure looks perfect. Only thing I would change would be to give it a bit more room all around. The left side especially looks rather tight to me.
Looks pretty good, you have two catchlights and the crop is too tight.
Great whites for Manual 1/1, good use of distance flash theory.
Last edited by Jeff Cashdollar; 11-14-2009 at 08:59 AM.
Hi Mr. Peters,
I will respectfully withhold my comments to give our BPN brothers and sisters the opportunity. Should be fun...:):cool:
This is not a "Flame!"
May I ask the purpose was this photo taken? An expressed "Purpose" for the photo submitted would help this writer in critiquing. If I was an artist drawing a picture - I find this photo exceptional for reference. I probably would not purchase a 2'X4' copy to hang on my wall. If I am critiquing conformation - maybe not enough room is offered for the subject. If I am purchasing a copy of this photo - maybe a small crop sent to me prior to sale to check - Sharpness, color, contrast, and paper would be in order, etc. as all our media differs.
Again, this is not a "Flame." It is just some of the ideas that have been perplexing for me on the forum.
Rob...............
Not much to improve IMHO. Were it mine (and I wish it were) I would try to get just a tiny bit more detail out of the white cheek; maybe experiment with just a tiny bit more room on RH and LH, although I like the tight crop; and remove the tiny white spec on upper beak near the head. I suspect you had something else in mind but I'm not seeing it.
Hi Rob - no problems - purpose of the photo was to post here :) and see what everyone made of the techs etc.Originally Posted by Rob Miner
Note I was at 1/8000th and still used flash -did the flash have any effect?? What dictated whether the flash had any effect??
So in reality the shot was taking as a teaching aide.
As you posted it as a teaching aid, I'd suggest the following modifications.
I took the liberty of doing the modifications, if you wish I'll remove the adjusted image.
I agree with comments regarding more room & removing the extra catch light and white spot.
Also fill flash probably didn't do much for you.
Some greater texture on the check would also help.
The modifications were done by the following [descriptions of techniques are elsewhere in BPN resources]
Canvas expanded by using crop tool to outline image then pulling ends out further; marque full vertical selection next to beak, cntl J to new layer and moved to right; cntl J & move to left; clone at 30% to clean up overlaps & signature. Cloned out catch light and white spots. Cntl shift E to Flatten. Selected color range/highlights, cntl J to new layer. Change blend mode to multiply, reduce 50%. Cntl shift E to Flatten.
Nice work Jack!!! - thats what I was looking for- nice step by step guides as well.
This is a great way to learn guys - never hesitate to do a repost of ANY of my images - you will not offend me in any way - I will often post a image like this as a opportunity for someone to put into practice what they have learnt.
Whether the flash has any effect or not depends on the distance to the subject and the shutter speed - at 1/8000th the output is reduced a lot - however I was also very close, maybe 5-6 feet - all I was after from the flash was a catchlight.
Fine work Jack !!! ... had the right effect !!!
Flash wise I'm sure it did not have any effect on the image at all !!!
..... good point Rob !!! ...what is the purpose !! Normally we don't say so but it does make a difference, never thought much about it but in some I have stated for this or that !!
Sweet image lance, love the tight in your face lots of detail !!!
Hi. I am still trying to figure out how "ultimate use" has anything to do with critique on this forum. A good image is still good, albeit it may not be able to be enlarged much. Anyway, the image is fine, including detail and whites, though a bit too tight. What has me scratching my head, beside the ultimate use issue, is the ISO 800, the 1/8000sec, the use of flash,especially at the very high shutter speed, the use of a teleconverter with a domesticated Chinese Duck. Of course this could just be me. regards~Bill
Hi Bill
All those points are to comment and are educational. Do you get any flash affect at 1/8000 sec, need ISO 800 for this image etc
Tele converter wise I do use even a 2X on my local domesticated Chinese Ducks ... on my 600 !! Could use a shorter lens but gives a different perspective/bg.
Intended use does come into play, I would not give my intention for every one but if I'm doing something in particular would help. I think in the image posted by Lance its implied on the tittle. Rob probably wanted to see it written on the post but he does have a point.
Thanks Alfred. I've stopped scratching my head! Especially about the tele, the perspective and the BG. regards~Bill
:) If the intent was to add a catchlight to the image without "blasting" the subject, I would have to say that using the flash at 1/8000s shutter speed was successful.
I really like the quick "canvas add" tutorial.
And last- the image held up to the massacre that reducing to size for web posting is very well. I'll bet the detail in the full size version is awesome :)
Hi Michael - yes I did not want to blast the subject - all I required was a catchlight - the detail in the full size imae is pretty amazing :)
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