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    SonyA700~Sony70-400G@400mm~ISO1000~F6.3~1/800sec~manual exposure~overcast~9-25-2009~Brays Bayou~Houston, Texas
    CS4/Topaz Adjust3(small detail preset)/Topaz Clean2
    comments and critique welcomed. regards~Bill
    Last edited by WIlliam Maroldo; 09-26-2009 at 06:31 PM.

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    Cool effect...great pose on bird...well done

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    Bil, I love the landing pose and wish the beak was clear from the left wing BUT -The effect is awesome and the details look great!!Well done!!

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    beautiful application of your process Bill.
    The underwing appears to be processed chroma noise....may not be,
    but to me the green coloration is more than vegetation reflecting.
    Was the wing underexposed in extreme shadow?

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    Thanks Paul, Dennis, Dave P! Dave, no the wing was not underexposed; Heavy overcast, very little shadow, required ISO 1000, which I generally deal with by overexposing the image, which I did here. Nonetheless, considering the lighting limitations, I was pretty happy with the result.
    Greenish cast, where have I heard that before? Probably reflected vegetation, I agree. At least there was no duck weed! regards~Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIlliam Maroldo View Post
    Thanks Paul, Dennis, Dave P! Dave, no the wing was not underexposed; Heavy overcast, very little shadow, required ISO 1000, which I generally deal with by overexposing the image, which I did here. Nonetheless, considering the lighting limitations, I was pretty happy with the result.
    Greenish cast, where have I heard that before? Probably reflected vegetation, I agree. At least there was no duck weed! regards~Bill
    very interesting..../the green is only in the shadows with light from high right.
    None of the green appears on the breast/neck or legs.....vegetation reflection?
    Not gonna beat this to death, but my comprehension is at a low level here

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    Dave; please, feel free to beat it to death, and my comprehension is at an equally low level! Let me get back to the RAW image, maybe there will be more clues. I do know that I had to drop the jpeg conversion below 50% to get the 200Kb. Might have been better to just decrease the image size. regards~Bill

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    nice effect and landing position
    TFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIlliam Maroldo View Post
    Dave; please, feel free to beat it to death, and my comprehension is at an equally low level! Let me get back to the RAW image, maybe there will be more clues. I do know that I had to drop the jpeg conversion below 50% to get the 200Kb. Might have been better to just decrease the image size. regards~Bill
    Bill, I just played a bit and desaturated that underwing......play around with your technique
    on a known noisey area and see what happens.....the "clean" blends the colors and gives some edging.
    Just a thought....your process is creative and unique, like fine art etchings

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    I have two questions
    Dave) Are you saying that you just desaturated the area and applied the clean?
    Bill) How do you avoid getting halos? I always get halos w/clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denise ippolito View Post
    I have two questions
    Dave) Are you saying that you just desaturated the area and applied the clean?
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    Denise, just took Bill's image above and desat underwing and adjusted levels......no other work.
    I was suggesting that the "clean" process was merging/blending chroma noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Phillips View Post
    Denise, just took Bill's image above and desat underwing and adjusted levels......no other work.
    I was suggesting that the "clean" process was merging/blending chroma noise.
    Gotcha-thanks:) The repost looks great!

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    Good work Dave. Interesting. Good ideas using desaturation to reduce chroma noise effects, the alternative would be noise reduction is specific areas of an image, i.e. dark ones, (the underwing here). Of course noise reduction means loss of detail, and for that reason, with this technique, I rarely go there.
    Denise, about halos in Topaz Clean; halos are related to image size and edge sharpness. If the image is a considerable crop, or small to start with for that matter, even if edges are sharp, halos will appear. A full sized image with sharp edges will create far fewer, if any, halos and in this image here, close to full frame, there were no resulting halos surrounding the bird. If they do show up, I generally erase them with a small history brush(CS). regards~Bill

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    Thanks Bill!!

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