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    Bill McCrystyn
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    Default Wide Eyed And Bushy Tailed

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    20D 100-400L IS @ ISO400 F/11 1/1500

    I am working on getting the light right. Whites have been a problem for me. It seems the dynamic range is covered here.

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    Axel Hildebrandt
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    I like the water color and pattern. It's hard to say much about the exposure since the subject is relatively small in the frame. I might try a tighter crop.

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    Bill McCrystyn
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    Thanks Axel, That's always my problem with 8MPX but I will see what I can do. I would like to see it closer myself. At print size the detail comes out much better. I think I held the detail in the white feathers.

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    Richard Kowalski
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    Hey Bill,

    Don't get down on those 8.2 million pixels in our 20Ds! :)

    I don't know what software you are using for processing your images. I use CS2 on my windows box at home and have PS Elements 2 loaded on the Apple Powerbook I use at work. (Yes I know I should upgrade, but on a low-level scientist's salary, I use the free software that came bundled with the 20D. It does all I need to do when I'm at the telescope)

    Anyway, if you are using one of these products, when you open the levels dialog, hold down the Alt key (Option for Mac users) while clicking on the white and black sliders. Each one in turn will show you the pixels that are saturated white or black respectively. If you don't have any white pixels visible when you do this with the white point, you haven't fully exposed the image and have some room to work. I know other software have a similar tool so if you don't use these Adobe products, check out the manual for your software and I'm sure you'll find something similar.

    BTW, I think you can crop this a little more like Axel suggests

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    Alfred Forns
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    HI Bill I like placing the bird on the lower left corner Small birds in frame do look better in that position Excellent feel !!!!

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    Richard Kowalski
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    Here's one suggested crop Bill. Looks like I over rotated the bird a little too much too.

    A little soft, but I'm also working with the file you posted, so a rework from the original would probably be better.

    Also, I used the technique I mentioned above and you do have some blown whites in the body, but there is still detail there. Try again and see what you come up with.

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    Maxis Gamez
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    Second post works much better, but looks like you have very little data to work with.

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    Bill McCrystyn
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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOO-K Your crop did surprise me a little Richard. I didn't think it would hold up much more. Maybe I'll go in and have another look. 8MPX will only go so far.

    Sorry Maxis, I guess I was getting a little artsy with the comp. I don't know that I can get anymore detail out of this one. It's very black and very white, ya know what I mean. I will on the crop isolate the white and try some things. I thought the detail wasn't bad, but you got me looking. Thanks. Would you have comped down a half stop?

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    Richard Kowalski
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    It is hard to say if I would have stopped down Bill. I'm not sure how much of what I am seeing is blown out in post processing or in the original. Much of the whites are OK, so you might have only needed -1/3rd to -1/2 stop EV.

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