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    Lance Peters
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    Default Is a Bad Ha ever any Good????

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    Bad HA on this one - I have lots with a Good HA - but for some reason I prefer this one with the BAD HA.
    Just seems to be something about it.

    What say you???

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    Handheld whilst lying on ground.

    Dont be shy - its a bad HA!!!!

    Comments welcome.
    Last edited by Lance Peters; 09-09-2009 at 03:30 AM.

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    The bird do look away from you, so yes it's not an ideal HA.
    However I still like this image, the raise feet and the awkward HA make me feel like the bird is trying to do a funny pose for you. Very sharp, good exposure, nice perch and beatiful background too.

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    Hey Mr. Peters,
    I like this capture, sometimes a less than ideal head angle tells the story and works in this case...:D...your little guy did a 180 degree to look at something that caught his attention...I like the raised foot...he displays sharp details and very good color rendition, the earth tones and hues of the background compliments the little guy quite well...love the perch too...well done Sir...:):cool:
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    I like it! The sharp eye and excellent exposure and details certainly holds your attention. I am not very experienced with birds at this point but I like it a lot as presented. So to answer your questions, in my opinion, YES.

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    A HA is only bad if it doesn't work, in this case it's not an issue. The viewer's attention is drawn to that white eye in a sea of black. Most people outside of this forum wouldn't give the HA issue a second thought, they would just see an outstanding image...which it is.

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    Nice image. Rules are made to be broken, when appropriate. I like the HA in this case, but would crop about !/2 the right BG area to pull the eye off center. But that is another rule again.

    Your image ... your vision.

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    It does have a special feel Lance and often go against the grain Striking bird and love the bg !!!

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    OK, you're challenging the status quo. I like it! All the elements are there and the bg is beautiful. Don't mind the HA as it appears that the bird is up to something, makes this interesting to me.

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    I'd like to explore Lance's question a bit. First I think the is one terrific, very dramatic, well done image. In fact, it seems to have everything except HA which makes it so interesting.

    I suppose the only way to really answer the question is if one could compare this image with an identical image but with a more 'correct' HA. As Jim commented, one key is the dramatic eye surrounded by the b&w feathers with a wonderful smooth bg. Would something be gained by having the correct HA? Obviously everything is tack sharp now, so we don't need it for sharpness. Would the correct HA add to the composition? I think the answer is yes. A bird looking out of an image moves the viewer's eye out of the image, whereas an eye looking at the viewer pulls the viewer in.

    I agree with the notion that rules are meant to be broken, but I betcha' that might be true less often than we see it done (even intentionally)

    Thanks for posting this beautiful image and asking the question
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    Love it, HA and all. In fact, I am just learning about HA, so I am not fully indoctrinated. I notice the beak is slightly open, that's another good aspect of this shot. I wish it were mine.

    I always ask myself, would I print this and hang it? Absolutly in this case.

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    Hi - Usually I would agree with Gail 100% - Lets call this part 1 (I am away for a couple of days - cant post my next image) For the next one I will post with a correct HA and we will see what everyone thinks.

    IMHO - this one even with the bad HA just has that something - and I am a fully paid up member of the HAP -LOL!!

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    Works for me, and yes when you first look at the image your eye is momentarily drawn to the left edge - what is the bird looking at? After the first peak, however, when you concentrate on the bird and not on the left edge, it works for me and makes for an interesting pose.
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    As always a great sharp capture on your part my friend. HA works for me just fine.

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    I think the HA brings an interesting character to the composition - so while some may argue on a technical basis that it may not be proper (although did not seem to be the case in this post), this clearly demonstrates that pleasing aesthetics are merely guided by principles not ruled by them. After all, birds have necks and use them - this captures the bird's real spirit.

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    I like it Lance, I would agree re moving it ever so slightly to the right but the fact that it is looking so intently makes the image for me.
    But then I'm definitely NOT a paid-up member of the HAP - I'm the rebel who thinks some rules are there to be broken:o guess once the altzheimer kicks in more seriously I may forget to want to buck the rules.:D

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