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    Two girls in a pickup truck should not have made him so angry. Viera Wetlands ,FL
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    Wow, I am glad I'm not close to him :)

    Very nicely done, great exposure and colors. Composition is good too. If this were mine, I'd probably blur the water and weeds a little bit.

    Great going!

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    wow, what jaws ...

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    You had very nice light for this image the open jaws is great. I don't mind the cropping of the gater behind the front leg. Thats a good spot for such a crrop. I would however like to see a bit more room in the FG.

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    I like Dale's suggestions. Great image, all the way down to the gape and the pearly whites!

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    Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

    Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

    Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

    later and love, artie
    Hmm, let's read Artie's mind. Getting too close to a hungry gator? :)

    I might have turned the camera CCW to level it and there is a sharpening halo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel Hildebrandt View Post
    Hmm, let's read Artie's mind. Getting too close to a hungry gator? :)

    I might have turned the camera CCW to level it and there is a sharpening halo.
    No stars for you Mr. Axel!

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    Is it that the eye is a near "Bulls Eye" ?.
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    Sorry, no stars for Howard (but possibly related to the correct answer).

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    Is it the head angle to the image plane? Slightly away from the parallel

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    No stars for Gautam. The head angle is perfecto! (See the Head Angle Police thread in ETL).

    later and love and keep trying. You will all kick yourselves hard for missing the obvious. And when somebody gets it, I will explain why you all missed it and how you can make all of your images better before you even press the shutter buttton!

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    The pond edge is touching the head?

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    Is it that the body crop should be closer to the leg joint?
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    Dennis idea has merit but it is not the major flaw that I am referring to. Raising the tripod a bit would have gotten the snout totally against the green which would be preferred. As for Howard, you have one more strike to go...

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    Is it that the body is comming directly out of the corner? If I strike out I am going looking for the two girls in the pickup truck!
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    Caption references the two girls but they are not shown? I'm with Howard!

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    The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut.

    I'd crop more off the top as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Amoruso View Post
    The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut.

    I'd crop more off the top as well.
    That is a good point. My 'no star' answer to level the horizon would have taken care of this. So who knows what Mr. Artie thinks. :)

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    Maybe it is as simple as...once focus was made with the center focus spot, (on the eye) the camera was not moved to make the correct composition? I would settle for 2 stars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Burkert View Post
    Maybe it is as simple as...once focus was made with the center focus spot, (on the eye) the camera was not moved to make the correct composition? I would settle for 2 stars!
    Best, Howard
    No stars and you are the weakest link! (Sorry, I could not resist.) Please send reinforcements...

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    Well, I'm stumped, but tuning in in anticipation of the mystery revealed :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Poor View Post
    Well, I'm stumped, but tuning in in anticipation of the mystery revealed :D
    Man, it involves an absolute fundamental that good photographers check most every time before they push the button...

    And if they fail to check, they usually live to regret it.
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    Check the Background for distractions?

    P.S. We need a "raise the white flag" smiley :D

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    Close but no stars or cigars for you.

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    The leveling of the camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layton E Parham View Post
    The leveling of the camera?
    Sorry, no stars for Layton...

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    I don't know what you are getting at.

    I sure am interested in the answer though.

    BigBib...

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    DOF preview?

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    No rule of thirds in positioning the subject?

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    Personally I think it's the out of focus foreground that pulls my eye away from the gator.

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    No stars yet for anyone...

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    Light/sun angle.

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    The horizontal OOF something or another (log) on the left side of the frame enters the frame from who knows where....

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    The angle of photography? A higher angle would have probably made the BG a little more homogenous green? A lower angle would have seperated the subject from the BG more....??
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    I am hesitant to say this because I am only an ameteur and may be way off and someone might have already mentioned it but how about a lot of CW rotation? I find the diagonal line of focus somewhat uncomfortable.
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    Is it that the photograph tends to move from dark (green vegetation at bottom) to light (blue water) to dark again (water vegetation)? I know this is a subjective viewpoint but don't most photographs tend to be darker on the bottom and lighter as you move toward the horizon or top of frame?

    Just a thought,

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    Nope, nope, nope and nope...

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    Hi Artie!

    Clean edges?

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    Hot spots in the background?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Wong View Post
    Hi Artie!

    Clean edges?

    Hey Brian, Please explain in more detail...

    Sorry Mike... Way to go with the great plover images...

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    One more try. That OOF blob on the lower right.

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    I'll take a shot at it. Is it that point of focus is on the near shoulder and not the eye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Fabulous image at first glance, but everyone so far has over-looked a cardinal sin... That said I love the open jaws and the BKGR.

    Yes, this is a test! Who will get the three gold stars?

    later and love, artie
    Over saturated...well, at least it looks over saturated after I've
    saved it and looked at on my monitor.

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    Last edited by Doug West; 02-13-2008 at 09:56 AM.

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    I wish the tip of his upper jaw / nose was fully in the green foliage and not intersected by the waters edge.

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    One more try! Basic rule.... Prior to shutter realease....What is in front of and in back of your subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Amoruso View Post
    The front right foot, perhaps virtual in this case is cut. I'd crop more off the top as well.
    Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

    later and love, artie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

    later and love, artie
    Artie,

    I mentioned that the image needed more FG in my initial critique..... It was a great learning tool....
    Last edited by Arthur Morris; 02-13-2008 at 11:49 AM.

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    Hi Artie!

    I can't tell you how much I enjoy these "quizzes" ... Not only are they great for teaching ... but even more valuable for those of us trying to improve, and learn from the experts. Wasn't it interesting to read all the possible answers from so many people, and all the theories and reasons? Terrific stuff!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Apologies to all. I missed Robert's correct answer somewhere above... If we fail to check the frame edges before depressing the shutter button we will very often pay the price. Here, there was lots of empty room at the top; the camera could have been pointed down quite a bit. Unless we are working very tight on purpose we need to be sure to get the whole animal in the frame, at least the part we are working with (as we are with the gator's front end).

    later and love, artie
    What do I get? :)

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