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    Default Panama to JFK #3/Is it Real or is it Counterfeit?

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    This Golden-hooded Tanager was photographed at Rio Indio, Panama with the Canon 800mm f/5.6L IS lens, the 1.4X II TC, and the EOS 1D MIII. ISO 800. Evaluative metering +2/3 stop: 1/80 sec. at f/9. Fill flash at -2 stops. t was quite a challenging situation as a pair of these birds was flying in and out with food for their young. The birds were about 20 feet up and as you can see from the techs, there was not much light.

    All comments are welcome; don't be shy. Please let me know what you think of the image.

    Can you detect any obvious Photoshop work, branches removed, canvas added, etc? (I did work hard to reduce the contrast.)
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    lovely colorful bird,
    I like the FG very much with the perch and the green and red leaves on the left.
    The BG is a bit busy for me.
    There a bit of a greenish / blueish cast, probably due to poor light conditions,
    I hope it's OK with you... PS, Color Balance ( +5, -5, -5)

    Your frigate bird beak question was easier,I can't see nothing too obvious.

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    Gurujil
    lovely looking bird , nicely perched and very intresting looks, loved those many colors of bird
    I am loving that BG , gives me feel of jungle
    TFS

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    nice looking bird with beautiful colors and pose..... the bg looks a bit buzy

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    Thanks Gal et al, I am on my back-up laptop as I have had many problems with my latest machine on this trip, possibly due in part to the humidity in Panama. This laptop is not calibrated so your repost and the ORIG post look identical. Yikes!
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    Artie, you are right the repost and the Orig look identical to me. The blotch in the upper right hand corner is a tad distracting. What a beautiful bird.

    Cheers

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    I think I see a green branch comming down from upper left, crosses a brown branch and disappears into a white streak. Looks like a clone job I would do:-)

    Many branches have the double edge often seen on OOF stuff. F9 is pretty small aperature for such a busy scene. One of my main grips about using my 400f5.6 with a 1.4X. It was sharp, but lousy background.

    Now that I have micro adjust on my 50D, and can finally nail focus I prefer to shoot wide open as much as possible for better backgrounds.

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    Very good one Arthur.
    I know how difficult it can be to get a picture of this guys with a clean BG, but the vegetation in this one is typical of their environment. I can only guess that something was removed or clone out on the upper right corner.
    PS. were you lucky with the Fiery-throated Hummingbird?

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    Thanks all for commenting. The untouched ORIG is above as it came out of the camera. Nothing drastic: toned down all the white spots especially the one above the bird. Removed some bird poop as the bird was defacating as the image was being made. That's probably why he stayed still for a second.

    Nothing was done to the URC or in the upper left :) :) :)
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    Hi Ben,

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    Many branches have the double edge often seen on OOF stuff. F9 is pretty small aperature for such a busy scene.

    Not really; with the 1.4X TC on the 800 f/5.6 f/9 is only 1/3 stop down from the wide open aperture of f/8. The double-edgings are pretty common even wide open. While the BKGR is busier than my usual BKGRs, I find it somewhat pleasing and as several mentioned, indicative of the rain forest habitat. And the bird picked a nice spot to stop and poop.

    One of my main grips about using my 400f5.6 with a 1.4X. It was sharp, but lousy background.

    Most lousy BKGRs are not caused by lenses.... :)

    Now that I have micro adjust on my 50D, and can finally nail focus I prefer to shoot wide open as much as possible for better backgrounds.

    As most folks here know I have been shooting wide open (or very close to it as here) for about 26 years. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Hi Ben,

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    Many branches have the double edge often seen on OOF stuff. F9 is pretty small aperature for such a busy scene.

    Not really; with the 1.4X TC on the 800 f/5.6 f/9 is only 1/3 stop down from the wide open aperture of f/8. The double-edgings are pretty common even wide open. While the BKGR is busier than my usual BKGRs, I find it somewhat pleasing and as several mentioned, indicative of the rain forest habitat. And the bird picked a nice spot to stop and poop.

    One of my main grips about using my 400f5.6 with a 1.4X. It was sharp, but lousy background.

    Most lousy BKGRs are not caused by lenses.... :)

    Now that I have micro adjust on my 50D, and can finally nail focus I prefer to shoot wide open as much as possible for better backgrounds.

    As most folks here know I have been shooting wide open (or very close to it as here) for about 26 years. :)
    Thanks for clarifying the cloning, I had to take a guess since you challanged us to do so http://birdphotographers.net/forums/...lies/smile.gif

    You are correct, backgrounds are chosen by the photographer, but a shallow dof can make a bad one less bad.

    I had a front focus issue with the 500F4 on 10d, 20d, 5D even the 1ds mk3 required +5clicks. The 50D is pretty good. So in the past, I needed to stop down to get sharp focus. Funny thing, my 1.4X adds some back focus and before MA, it seemed sharper than the bare lens. I could nail focus wide open with the 1.4X, but not the bare lens.

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    Loved the Bird Guru, good PP work too...thanks for all those priceless tips, really helps...

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    Beautiful species Artie and masterful PP work indeed. THanks for all the tips. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gal Shon View Post
    There a bit of a greenish / blueish cast, probably due to poor light conditions,
    I hope it's OK with you... PS, Color Balance ( +5, -5, -5).
    Thanks again Gal, Actually, the cast was Green and Red. The blue was low. Here is a color corrected version. Hope that it looks different!
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