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    Dear All
    Made this image with D40X, 50-500MM Sigma
    IQ is not good but wished to share this with you
    All commnets and crits are welcome and appreciated
    Harshad

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    Can't believe this...mirror images (sort of), rare shot of the two Mirchaini brothers in the open

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    Like this Harshad and thought to check it out as it does look pretty good and certainly, as Kiran said, worth it due to the rarity. Hope you like. (three rounds of luminosity sharpening at 50%, 0.3 & 1, and then a polish at 10%, 20 & 1. (yes... 20, no mis-spell). I so wish I had something like this. Their looks are awesome.
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    take my bows , awesome work , simply fabulous

    Harshad

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    No way my friend. You did all the work. (Just sometimes another set of eyes helps)... you are very welcome.

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    Nice rework, Dave !

    I don't want to steal Dave's thunder but he *might be* using the luminosity blend mode (in layers) and then sharpening. That technique does not affect the colors ( causes no color halos) after sharpening.

    Ron Bigelow demonstrates that here (search for luminosity blend mode):

    http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/blend4/blend4.htm

    PS: Dave, how does one polish ? Would like to know.
    Last edited by Kiran Khanzode; 07-28-2009 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiran Khanzode View Post
    Nice rework, Dave !

    I don't want to steal Dave's thunder but he *might be* using the luminosity blend mode (in layers) and then sharpening. That technique does not affect the colors ( causes no color halos) after sharpening.

    Ron Bigelow demonstrates that here (search for luminosity blend mode):

    http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/blend4/blend4.htm

    PS: Dave, how does one polish ? Would like to know.
    :D:D:D Am found out... Been doing it so long Kiran, I forgot to add the extra details.... just done the same on a fine bird llija showed of a Marsh Wren, but my explanation was a bit better.. (bit fuzzy headed at moment). Polishing is a last sharpen I sometimes do. All depends on subject etc, but often another round at 10%, 20 & 0-4. The key points being the effect the radius slider has. (best to move and decide by eye, but is quite interesting and worth playing with). Threshold is just set as per your usual setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Kes View Post
    Harshad - almost two puppies looking at you. Nice shot.
    David: nice rework. luminosity sharpening ... where/how do you apply this ?
    Peter, often done on main subject only by isolation, but on this occasion the complete image, as effect was minimal on the road. (would normally isolate subject and sharpen that only, but not nec here). Basically, it's open up a new layer, go to BLENDING MODE and click on arrow markers by Normal, scroll down to bottom and click on luminosity. Then it might be typically three sweeps of usm at 50%, 0.3 1 or your preferred settings, flatten then a polish at 10%, 20 & 1. Rarely, but sometimes, images need more, and while in a new layer I might apply Smart Sharpen then reduce opacity to get the desired effect. Am no expert in this and cannot explain the technical effects, but do so by eye. Hope that makes sense. Cheers Dave

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    Harshad, to get one Tiger is excellent but to get two in one shot is nothing short of outstanding.

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    Beautiful animals with a superb pose !!!! Would love to see these gorgeous cats one day. Many thanks for sharing Harshad !!

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    Harshadbhai
    Wonderful image of these giants. I like how unconcerned they look and your framing is good!

    I just read all of David's input and am impressed with the difference the extra PP steps made. Take it on brother! :)

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    Oh, david you seems to some PP guru.. if you dont mind can you give me some more details on this such as

    Basically, it's open up a new layer (do we have to open a dulpicate layer), go to BLENDING MODE and click on arrow markers by Normal, scroll down to bottom and click on luminosity. Then it might be typically three sweeps of usm at 50%, 0.3 1 (can you expalin 3 sweeps and the nos) or your preferred settings, flatten then a polish (what is polishing) at 10%, 20 & 1 (this nos too??). Rarely, but sometimes, images need more, and while in a new layer I might apply Smart Sharpen then reduce opacity to get the desired effect. Am no expert in this and cannot explain the technical effects, but do so by eye. Hope that makes sense.

    Hope you dont mind, regards,

    Kiran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiran Poonacha View Post
    Oh, david you seems to some PP guru.. if you dont mind can you give me some more details on this such as

    Basically, it's open up a new layer (do we have to open a dulpicate layer), go to BLENDING MODE and click on arrow markers by Normal, scroll down to bottom and click on luminosity. Then it might be typically three sweeps of usm at 50%, 0.3 1 (can you expalin 3 sweeps and the nos) or your preferred settings, flatten then a polish (what is polishing) at 10%, 20 & 1 (this nos too??). Rarely, but sometimes, images need more, and while in a new layer I might apply Smart Sharpen then reduce opacity to get the desired effect. Am no expert in this and cannot explain the technical effects, but do so by eye. Hope that makes sense.

    Hope you dont mind, regards,

    Kiran
    Hi Kiran. Glad to share. New layer... copy or duplicate is fine. re the sharpening, the first thing to take on board is that we can all arrive at the end result by a host of different methods, and that each file is different: (base colors, contrast of the content etc, and that each "critter" we photograph may need different treatment too.... some fur needs less sharpening such as bear/Waterbuck etc just as we would normally consider different sharpening for skin tones). Base thought, being to be very flexible and adaptable as often what may work on a lot, just doesn't for another.

    Re three sweeps, just saying have found the effect to apply less, but a few times such as three as quoted produces a more pleasing effect. 50 is the % or amount. 0.3 radius: (some like 0.2 some o.4 or more... very much experiment to your preferred taste, and 1 being the threshold.... we might for example use 4 and above for skin and lower figures from 2 to zero when more fine detail is needed). Those figures quoted are those I prefer to use, but please remember to be adaptable and adjust for each file.

    Polish sharpening is very subtle but often has quite a good effect. (kinda like helping it pop factor). again low % amount, such as 10. The radius part is the key though. Play with the slider and watch the preview change: :). You'll see what I mean. (very useful). Sometimes, it just isn't enough to pull an image and then I'll tickle it with
    some Smart Sharpen as mentioned and then reduce opacity to get to the desired effect.

    Really, it's all about experimenting, and having a good library. Believe the author on this one may have been Scott Kelby, but it was a while back. Hope that helps. To adjust Harshad's fine shot, took less than 2 mins.. really simple process. Cheers, Dave

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    Thanks David, thats a great help... I try out.

    Regards,

    Kiran

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    Sorry David.. one last question.. is there a tool called polishing, I use CS3.

    Thanks again..

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    This is so incredible, I only wish I could see this sometime in a lifetime :)

    I like the repost veery much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiran Poonacha View Post
    Sorry David.. one last question.. is there a tool called polishing, I use CS3.

    Thanks again..
    Hi Kiran. No. Sorry mate. Mind you, be easy enough to create an action... but I wouldn't: (often, 10, 20, & 1 is good for all, but is better to play with the slider to taste). It's just a phrase to name that last sharpen: (more like giving it a last rub/polish that's all). BTW, I still use CS3 too. Until I add the D3x, I'm happy with that. :)

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    I am yet to see one and you get two in a frame! wow! Thanks Dave for the insights to sharpening.

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