Hawk or Immature Eagle?

[scarroll]

:confused: I recently inherited a bird mount from my deceased father. Growing up I always knew it as a hawk. Now that I am grown and have the bird in my posession people that have seen it insist that it is not a hawk. Many believe that it is an immature eagle. This mount 75 or 80 years old, and I am told that it may not be legal to possess this mount. I would like to identify it but I am afraid that it will be confiscated. Who can I contact to assist me?

[Roy Priest]

There was no need for a permit when that bird was mounted so I presume it would be grandfathered as a no permit bird when the laws requiring permits came into being. I would contact your local game and fish department and ask them and you can apply for a permit if they require you to do so.
Looking at your avatar I would think this is a young bald eagle.

[scarroll]

There was no need for a permit when that bird was mounted so I presume it would be grandfathered as a no permit bird when the laws requiring permits came into being. I would contact your local game and fish department and ask them and you can apply for a permit if they require you to do so.
Looking at your avatar I would think this is a young bald eagle.

Thanks Roy - I have more pictues, is there a way that I can send them to you?

[William Malacarne]

There was no need for a permit when that bird was mounted so I presume it would be grandfathered as a no permit bird when the laws requiring permits came into being. I would contact your local game and fish department and ask them and you can apply for a permit if they require you to do so.
Looking at your avatar I would think this is a young bald eagle.

I am sure you are probably correct on the grandfathering issue.....but they may require some type of proof as to when it was mounted. I do know they can get you for even picking up eagle feathers off the ground, unless you are Native American and they are used in Religious ceremonies.

Bill

[Roy Priest]

Bill, that's true but they are very good in responding to legitimate requests. Just look at all the cowboys on the circuit who have eagle and redtail feathers in their hats.:) They also have a depository for eagle and hawk feathers that are available for native americans, again for legitimate purposes, there are a lot of falconers and breeders who donate feathers to this cause. I believe they also allow one tribe to capture a wild golden and use it in a ceremony. The eagle is released after the ceremony.

I am sure you are probably correct on the grandfathering issue.....but they may require some type of proof as to when it was mounted. I do know they can get you for even picking up eagle feathers off the ground, unless you are Native American and they are used in Religious ceremonies.

Bill

[Roy Priest]

Thanks Roy - I have more pictues, is there a way that I can send them to you?

Just send them to my email rop@shaw.ca or post them and send me a link.

[William Malacarne]

Bill, that's true but they are very good in responding to legitimate requests. Just look at all the cowboys on the circuit who have eagle and redtail feathers in their hats.:) They also have a depository for eagle and hawk feathers that are available for native americans, again for legitimate purposes, there are a lot of falconers and breeders who donate feathers to this cause. I believe they also allow one tribe to capture a wild golden and use it in a ceremony. The eagle is released after the ceremony.

Yes I have in the past raised African Greys and Green-winged Macaws and we used to save our feathers and donated them to a tribe in New Mexico. Remember when Hillary Clinton was given the Dreamcatcher. They can and will come after you.

http://www.thebeadsite.com/BMM-DRMC.htm

Bill

[scarroll]

I contacted the Dept of Nat Reaources here in Illinois and found out that due to it's age I do not need to have any legal documentation. I am assuming that it was mounted in the early 1930's so there's no documentation in existance as far as I know. I have also sent pics to them for identification purposes. Thanks for your input, and Roy - I am also e-mailing pics to you for your opinion.

[Roy Priest]

You're welcome, and it's good news you get to keep the bird in the family. I'll be waiting for the pics.

I contacted the Dept of Nat Reaources here in Illinois and found out that due to it's age I do not need to have any legal documentation. I am assuming that it was mounted in the early 1930's so there's no documentation in existance as far as I know. I have also sent pics to them for identification purposes. Thanks for your input, and Roy - I am also e-mailing pics to you for your opinion.