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    David Ornstein
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    Oversaturated?

    Parts of the bird's chest were clipped in the red channel only. Coverted from RAW with ACR - no adustments made. In CS3, using Levels, I pulled the center slider for the red channel a little to the right and reduced the highlight output from 255 to 245. In curves I added a minimal S-curve. USM was 75/2.5/1. I did not use Hue & Saturation, but the image looks oversaturated to me. It was shot on a clear day about 1/2 hour after sunrise.

    1D Mk iii, 600mm f/4L IS USM +1.4x, f/8.0 @ 1/640, manual -0.55, ISO 800, 3/21/09 0809 EDT, Tampa Bay, Fla., area

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    Paul Marcellini
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    The light looks harsh and the reds oversaturated but I took a stab to see. Ofcourse the raw will give you more to work with but....

    highlight multiply, -100 contrast, red desat by 20, cyan by 10, pull midtones back up in curves

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    The first think I saw from the thumbnail was the high contrast. In harsh light you have eto do an inverse curve to reduce it.
    Great repost by Paul.
    Your sharpening setting seem exaggerated to me. I'd never go over 1.0 meaning 100/1.00/0 almost never getting to 1.00 radius.
    If Smart Sharpen is available to you, it may be easier to use.

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    David Ornstein
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    Thanks to both Paul & Fabs. I'm going to start from RAW again.

    Had I exposed at a half or a whole stop less, would I have gotten the "right" exposure? If yes, how can I figure that out in the field. (I'm sure the answer takes more than a line or two, Could you direct me to saomething to read?) Thanks.

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    If the light was warm, the red channel is probably going to be blown. You may have introduced the contrast yourself in curves. When the light is harsh, to protect the whites you need to go under a lot rendering your BG very dark, I don't think that was the case, rather you got the contrast wrong. Warm light is very early or very late, not consistent with harsh light.

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    Alfred Forns
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    David all cameras seem to over saturate the red channel For most birds with reds you need to go to selective color and reduce the red channel a couple of points !!! ... good looking spoon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Ornstein View Post
    Thanks to both Paul & Fabs. I'm going to start from RAW again.

    Had I exposed at a half or a whole stop less, would I have gotten the "right" exposure? If yes, how can I figure that out in the field. (I'm sure the answer takes more than a line or two, Could you direct me to saomething to read?) Thanks.
    David: getting the right EXP is the field is simple: just be sure that you have data in fifth histogram box. Pushing the EXP a far to the right as possible without having any flashing highligths (or just a few as we are seeing the more contrasty histogram of the JEPG even when using RAW capture.

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    David Ornstein
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    Thanks so much!

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