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    Brian Barcelos
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    Sun wasn't on my side but I don't think it hurt the image to much. He was the only bird that would stand still enough for me today. C/C appreciated. Brian



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    Brian:

    Handsome bird, lovely background,good angle in the frame.

    I might crop it a bit to decenter it ,take a little off the right.

    You mentioned the light angle issue, not always easy to control. Fill flash would have helped you fill in the shadow side and reduce the contrast as well.

    The bird is not quite critically sharp on my monitor, so perhaps a bit more sharpening.

    Thanks for posting. Keep after it!

    Randy

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    Hey Randy, Thanks for the critique. I've been having a lot of loss in detail when converting and shrinking the pictures and don't know why. Obviously I still have a lot to learn. Would you or anyone else be able to explain why this is happening? Thanks for any help.

    P.S. I don't have any editing software except DPP.

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    Lovely background and very nice pose. Your exposure looks good. Your angle of capture is also good in my opinion. I don't use DDP so can't help you there. Question; are you sharpening after you resize or before?

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    Brian:

    I don't know what DDP is, but would guess it is a Canon product?
    Perhaps one of the Canon faithful can give you a hand on workflow with that product. I am a Nikon guy.

    Phils point is good, about the sharpening. When you downsize for the web, you lose apparent sharpness, so have to do additional sharpening over what looks good in the raw/full size file.

    Randy

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    Ákos Lumnitzer
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    Randy, DPP is Digital Photo Professional that comes (I think) with all new Canon DSLRs.

    Brian,
    Randy touched on the important point, so I won't repeat. I do like the image and you can apply some or all the previous tips to optimize to a higher degree.

    Thanks for sharing. :)

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    Thanks for all comments. DPP is the Canon software. Next investment will be Photo Shop. I sharpened the picture before I re sized it. Now I now for next time. This forum is great, I really appreciate everyone's feed back.

    Brian

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    Brian:

    A lot of people do a two stage or more sharpening routine.
    1st stage is to eliminate the effect the anti-aliasing filter of the camera - most if not all digital pictures are soft out of the camera (raw)
    2nd stage is output sharpening, where you sharpen again depending on your target. Prints have to be sharpened more because of the way inkjets work and downsizing for web presentation requires more sharpening to maintain apparent sharpness.

    Cheers

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    Hi Brian!

    Yes, it is generally a good idea to sharpen at the last stage. However, after resizing to a smaller resolution for posting, some extra sharping may then be needed. What application are you using to resize your image?

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    Hey Brian,
    I use the Canon HPP to re size because as of right now it's the only software I've got.

    Brian

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