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    Alfred Forns
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    Default Assignment Out of camera pelican

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    Pelican carrying large branch .. proud bird.

    Canon 1DMk3
    100-400 IS
    f 5.6 1/2500
    ISO 640
    Manual exp

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    Mr. Forns,
    I am going to respectfully decline, and reserve my comments. I'm going to let our brother and sister members make their suggestions on the image...It should be interesting and fun to see what comes about...:):cool:

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    ok, I will try since you asked.

    Nice HA and light angle. I like the detail under the wing, no harsh shadows.

    I would like to see more face detail (e.g., eye).

    Could possible lower ISO to enhance quality, seem to have plenty of SS. Nice job, keep em coming AL.
    Last edited by Jeff Cashdollar; 04-06-2009 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Corrections

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    Jeff, this is the "straight out of the camera" assignment. No cropping allowed! I'm guessing that we will see a lot of centered birds, since that's the sweet spot of the autofocus. Mr. Forns gets high marks for this manual exposure, as the whites and blacks are both very close to clipping but I'm guessing they are not. Possible black clipping in the bank area below the foliage.

    I like the compositional element of the branch echoing the curve of the bird. Well done sir!

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    Lance Peters
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    Love that branch - likewise will add my 2 cents at the end.

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    Ákos Lumnitzer
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    Mmm. Mr Forns, it looks good, I would off center the bird by cropping from left and top. Though I feel not much room to play with. However, exposure wise I may try selectively lighten the dark banks. Otherwise it appears OK, and perhaps a little more saturation. Darn, this is great OOC.

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    Great comments !!

    Jeff regarding the ISO I set it according the camera I'm using. If I had the 50D I would have been at 400 probably but the Mk3 is very clean so might as well use it. I like having a shutter speed of 2500 for flight but not always able to achieve. Quality wise you won't see any difference if It was at 400.

    Also the bg will influence your ISO selection, light bg you can crank it up a little more !!!

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    Al,

    Thanks for the comments, not use to a camera with such advanced functionality as the Mk3, if the capital markets ever recover I might get something like that. I learned about pancakes from denise, I assume this is in that class.

    One question please sir. If the BG was light it would seem the ISO could be reduced to enhance quality and the SS would not suffer. Help me understand your last comment. Thanks, Al, see you soon.

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    Got the blacks and whites just under Al.- well exposed. Dark BG really shows off the bird. Lighting looks harsh, was it?
    Would sharpen the bird and drag him over to the left in Content aware. Didn't know that ISO tip w/ light BG's.

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    Alfred Forns
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    Hi Jackie the light was harsh !!

    Jeff noise shows up on dark areas mostly. If your image is made of of mostly light tones you can increase the ISO. With dark tones you need to be careful exposing, underexposure and lightening will lead to lots of noise.

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    Oscar Zangroniz
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    More room in front of the bird.

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    Nonda Surratt
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    Everything pretty much covered do LOVE that branch!

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    Ákos Lumnitzer
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    Great education there Al with the ISO and explaining the effect on darks! I now as standard, always expose my histograms to the right and am not concerned about a few little flashing highlights. Am I doing the smart thing to cover all eventualities?

    Thanks. :)

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    Not sure Akos but I think you can expose to the right, but leave a little room. Generally if I have any blinkies I delete the image. Bet this could be a whole new thread:)

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    Agree, would crop behind the bird and selectively lift the shadows on the bank area. Thanks for explanation on ISO.

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    The movement in this image makes it a winner. I'm more concerned with the strong light than with the shadows.

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