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    Gail Spitler
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    Best of the season to all:D

    I used the patch tool in CS3 PS to remove a branch in the lower right corner and ended up with smudges where the "cloned" area touched the edge of the image. Any idea how to avoid this?

    Comments and suggestions much appreciated
    Gail

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    ooops just noticed the white blob near the bird's tail. It is actually an oof clump of snow. Any advice on removing it? Quick-mask?

    Thanks
    Gail

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    sorry, no advice here on your questions, but I love the pose and great eye contact!

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    love the pose and you certainly had its attention!! no advice from me either..sorry.

    nice job!!!

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    Gail, Nice shot- I never saw one of these guys so thanks for that-Can't answer your specific question but I lower the opacity on the clone tool to smooth over areas of trouble.

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    Hi gail Quick mast will help you get rid of the oof snow, not an easy fix !!! It is a gorgeous bird so working on it will be worth it !!!

    Again the white area does detract buy you do have a fine image in every way, a keeper in my book !!!

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    Hi Gail,
    Very nice...I like the composition; your bird is placed just right in frame. you have nice sharp details and good color rendition. I like the v-shaped perch with the touch of snow...your head angle is a little off and the bird should be looking down at you. As far as the blur marks in post processing, Mr. Forns covered that nicely...congrats on the lovely capture...Merry Christmas to you and your family...:cool:

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    Fine image Gail, lovely birdie.

    Agree with Alfred on his suggestions, fine as is tho'

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    Thanks everyone - your comments and suggestions are most helpful and most generous. Thanks
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    Hi Gail:

    In a situation like this with such a nice even BG I would have used the brush tool at different hardness & opacity, an example is the top left branch & white spot mentioned. All work close to bird and branch at 300% size. Please keep in mind that working on the jpg does lose some detail.

    Lovely capture, I like it very much.

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    I think I am going against the flow, but I like have the back branch in the image. I like the snow on it, and how it gives some counter balance to the photo.

    I do like the white area around the tail feathers removed.

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    Awesome Capture Gail , one of the best Chikadee photos i have seen :)

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    Hi Folks:

    Lets get one thing clear, my repost is not to depict my idea of the composition of the photo, all I'm doing is answering Gail's question. "I used the patch tool in CS3 PS to remove a branch in the lower right corner and ended up with smudges where the "cloned" area touched the edge of the image. Any idea how to avoid this?"

    Reposts can take a bit of time, so due to my personal feelings I quit doing them awhile back unless I'm answering a particular request that other folks said they had no advice to give. My size 13's don't want to step on any one's toes!

    There is a thread on the subject in BPN, with varied opinions which I think is great as people voice their pros and cons freely, as it should be.

    Keep smiling

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    Thanks Gus for the re-post. I think we are all talking at cross purposes a bit. There is a white area near the tail and in the V between the two branches from a very oof snow patch. Gus -thanks for the comments and re-post that includes the elimination of this white area.
    The smudges left after using the patch tool are on the lower right and Gus eliminated those as well. So thanks again.
    Personally I tend to concur with Cheryl about leaving the more defined but less focused branch and snow clump in the image.

    So bottom line for me is I appreciate Gus' work on the re-post. It has given me some good ideas. And thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions.
    BTW Gus wrote in his last e-mail in this thread:
    There is a thread on the subject in BPN, with varied opinions which I think is great as people voice their pros and cons freely, as it should be.

    Gus all the forums are at BPN; do you have a more defined reference. I'd like to read the comments on the issue of to re-post or not re-post (to steal from Hamlet).

    Thnaks again
    Gail

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    I too appreciate all the reposts. I am a visual learner, and learn more from seeing them than I do from just written directions. With Gus's repost, I never would have been able to visualize the image without the background branch without seeing the repost.

    I certainly appreciate all the time people take when demonstrating a repost!

    I also appreciate the openness on this forum to be able to discuss and even disagree on some issues.

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    Lovely Gail,
    Might sharpen the eye just a bit. Like it as presented. If you know how to do QM (quick mask the LRC would have been easy to fix since the BG is all one colour) if not Robert O'tooles CD on quick masks is a great tutorial. Great exposure and framing.

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    Very nice capture! I masked in Quick Mask mode and cloned out the back branch entirely. Then I got to looking at it and thought, as other mentioned, that maybe the branch helps to balance the composition, so I painted it back in (the beauty of masks!). Either way, the snow blob and the spots at bottom right were cloned out.


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    Thanks David - it is interesting to see that the branch in the rear does help to balance the image. Your re-posts give me something to shoot for.
    Thanks very much
    Gail

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