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    Alfred Forns
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    Default What's wrong with this image Critique !!!!

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    This image is just converted but no PS work. Does anything work for you? What works what doesn't ... should it go to the trash !!! Lets hear your ideas

    Comments welcome and much appreciated

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    Lance Peters
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    Hi Al - looks like one of my ugly birds :)

    I find the dark area and above in the bg (were it intersects the birds neck) to be a little distracting. The neck and head angle is a little contorted would like to see what he is looking at.
    :)

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    Here's my take.

    I think the biggest problem is the very dark shadow of the left under-wing of the bird. Not sure what could be done during the shoot other than perhaps put a reflector underneath the bird, if the bird could cooperate. ;)

    Some may want to see the toes of the ibris but I'm not sure if that's necessary since nobody seems to ask for that when the ibris is standing in the water. Harsh light may be considered a problem for some but I think good photographers know how to handle it and still get good results. Then, was the ibris really preening, or was it just checking its back ? :D:D

    I cropped it, apparently, and added some vignetting, to put viewer's focus more on the bird. I guess that tells you what other issues I found.
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    Firstly BPN's HA police would be after you!!

    The join of the dark bg at the bird's neck is distracting so I guess the comp. is wrong.
    Would also crop a bit differently and eye needs sharpening.

    Desmond, I got really nailed for cloning out a shadow on one of my pics on a S.A site - came away with the proverbial whipped puppy syndrone...:o They maintained it's natural to see a shadow in that kind of lighting (even though you shouldn't shoot in it!! Only time I see the darn things!!).

    I know Al likes space left for the toes to be even if you can't see them ..... so.....

    Al, unless you can work miracles this is my kind of image, not one I'd expect from you............ so on those grounds, yes, I'd bin it!!!!:D
    Last edited by Jeni Williams; 11-16-2008 at 07:34 AM.

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    Alfred Forns
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    You guys got it perfectly My biggest concern is the shadow behind the bird, just one look and its garbage material, not much you can do and keep it natural.

    The bird itself is on the ugly side but has character, head angle not horrendous but would like a little more of a head turn and then there is the bottom shadow. Detracts from the image and in itself would probably make it garbage material !!

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    if i may also add, you say that the shadow in the rear is not natural. do you find that the nicely mowed st augustine grass that he is standing on natural? for me, at first look, i thought zoo/park picture. that normally takes it to the garbage right there if you want a more natural setting.

    i do find the pose of the bird different and kinda cool! and the exposure is dead on!! btw, drove down to about 15 miles south of Tavernier yesterday. no pelicans or any other birds to speak of. i did see two skimmers in one of the lagoons but where they were you couldnt pull over and park. lots of NO PARKING signs now between FL CITY and key largo.

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    Gail Spitler
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    The pose is interesting and alive, the exposure is dead on. Bird looks sharp and could be sharpened more if you were keeping the image.
    I agree the dark layer across the top that crosses just at the neck doesn't help. But I wonder what time of day this was shot. I notice the shadow across the upper shoulder and think maybe the sun is too high in the sky - making for harsh light and the distracting shadow on the ground just behind the bird.
    Aren't the wings tips on the White Ibis black, both above and underwing? Does the harsh light make the wing tips look like they are more in shadow then they really are? In fact, at first I thought the front wing tip was a shadow.
    Cheers
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    Alfred Forns
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    Good point about the grass Harold !!! Imagine if he was standing on bent would have been even worse !!!

    Gail can't remember the exact time but I'm sure it was not prime light, I was fooling around at Crandon Gardens feeding the local population. I think the dark under the bird is mostly shadow but as you point out the dark tips are not helping much !!!

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    William Malacarne
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    I think that is not a shadow but the underside of his left wing.....

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