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    Ed Vatza
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    Default American Wigeon

    This image was made in late December alongside a North Shore (NJ) lake/pond. After an overnight rain and a very overcast morning, conditions later in the afternoon turned partly cloudy.

    Camera 30D; Lens 400mm f/5.6L; Handheld; No Flash

    1/640 sec at f/5.6; ISO 400; +2/3EV

    Image has been slightly cropped from 3504x2336 to 3270x2049 before resizing.


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    Alfred Forns
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    Hi Ed Good looking wigeon Those birds are difficult to expose due to the light feathers Exposure is good might suggest multiplying layers for extra white detail Would also consider more room since it seems a bit tight !!! If possible a lower angle would have given a sweet perspective !!!!

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    Anita Rakestraw
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    Lovely bird, great detail in most of the feathers. Agree with Al about trying to get back some detail in the whites. I see pretty obvious cloning marks in the lower left hand area of the background, and possibly some much less obvious & smaller ones in the lower right hand area around and beneath the rear body and tail.

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    Ed Vatza
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Rakestraw View Post
    Lovely bird, great detail in most of the feathers. Agree with Al about trying to get back some detail in the whites. I see pretty obvious cloning marks in the lower left hand area of the background, and possibly some much less obvious & smaller ones in the lower right hand area around and beneath the rear body and tail.
    OK Anita, you caught me! I cloned. But please tell me what you see there that leads you to say "obviously cloning marks". I did the cloning and I have to look real hard and rely on memory and still don't see any obvious cloning marks.

    The only thing that is obvious to me is that you know what to look for... and I don't! :) So if you happen to wander back here, please explain so I know what to look for in the future. Thanks, Anita.

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    Anita Rakestraw
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    I'm very sorry, Ed, if I embarrassed you here!!! I've sent you a private message....

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    Ed Vatza
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    Not a problem at all, Anita. No embarrassment on my part. I have learned more in the 17 days I have been on BPN than I have in the past year since I got my first SLR. PP beyond the basics is my Achilles heel (well at least one of them) without a doubt.

    I should point out that I do a lot of processing in Lightroom and then, if I need it, I move into PS7 which is the version I have right now.

    I rarely clone unless it is water or grass or something like that because I am not good at it. I really thought this looked ok and I still can't see what you see and that's not good. But I have had the same experience with other comments until someone points out what specifically to look for.

    So thanks for responding and I'll await your more detailed post on what to look for. And again, no embarrassment on my part so no need for apology.

    Ed

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    If you don't vary your clone source, you get an area that looks kind of wavy with a repeating pattern. In this image, I see it on the same vertical plane as the beak and on the same horizontal plane as the transition between dark and light feathers on the duck's body. Sample the grass from multiple locations to break up any patterns.

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