RED: Huge news for the Pro DSLR user market

[Robert O'Toole]

The next 6-8 should be very interesting. Red has decided to enter the DSLR market. Red promises to blow away the competition from Canon and Nikon. Red released a pro UHDV 4000K DV camera that crushed all price and performance barriers in 2006 and still no real competition. Red is a company started by the founder of Oakley Jim Jannard. He is a pro photographer and owns both D3 and MKIII systems.

The reasons this new camera really could be revolutionary is that Red is starting fresh without any legacy issues. So they dont have to use a 35mm film camera as a base for his DSLR. This means the new camera could easily feature both ultra high resolution and 30-100 fps. All red cameras follow a policy of non obsolescence so everything is upgradable, no more obsolete $7K cameras. And they are planning on using a new custom ultra high DR sensor. Planned release is early 2009. Camera should have multiple mounts BTW.

Here is a thread link from the red site if interested in more info:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18710

More red information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_camera

Red site:

http://www.red.com/

[James Shadle]

I remember you and I talking about "Red" and what could happen if they entered the "still" camera market.

Looks exciting and expensive!

[Maxis Gamez]

Looks like a military secret weapon to me..... :)

Bring it on baby!!

[Robert O'Toole]

Hey James they are claiming to be competitive with price, they were saying $3000 at one point.

Imagine $3000 for all metal body, 20 Mpx and 1-100 fps and a removable sensor, super high dynamic range and canon and Nikon lens mounts....

??? who knows...

Robert

[Maxis Gamez]

Would be good for Landscapes and studio!! :)

[Robert O'Toole]

Looks like a military secret weapon to me..... :)

Bring it on baby!!

Oh yeah, true. the guy who owns it is the guy who owned Oakley do its the same industrial style. He sold it for like 3 billion cash. Now he makes cameras..what a life...
He owns a D3 an MKIII so he says he only makes cameras that he will want to shoot with, so he is aiming to kill the d3 and MKIII.


Robert

[john crookes]

This is good but it is a video camera according to other sites and to get it with a lens and rest of setup it is in the 5000 range with a normal lens and we do not know who the maker of the lens is yet

[Robert O'Toole]

Red says it is going to be a high FPS pro still camera with super high dynamice range and high MP.

As far as I have heard its going to be body only and in Nikon and Canon lens mount.

Scarlet is the video camera you or the site you and the site you are reading is referring to.

I think you are reading old news. The truth will come out early next year when it is released.

Robert

[john crookes]

Here is the link to the red site itself

ten pounds without lens and battery and you also need a viewfinder which means it is not optical view but like a video cammera view good luck

ten pounds yikes

http://www.red.com/cameras/tech_specs

While I think RED's video cameras sound awesome, and surely they have the right group to design an amazing DSLR, the big thing that comes down to still cameras are the lenses. Lenses will define whether RED can play with Nikon, Pentax, Canon, Sony, and two-thirds. Likely, none of those companies will license their mount to RED because it could wipe them completely out. Not that RED would want to use any of those mounts, as they seem to often rethink things. Film cameras are super-expensive, and the savings can be placed into lenses, that before now, were also rented, but DSLRs are a different animal. Unless RED buys out one of the existing makers,I think the it will be just another player in the radically changing SLR world.

Posted by: David T. | Sep 2, 2008 12:44:09 PM

I think most of us tried and true photographers agree...the mount and flash systems are the big things for us. We have money invested in glass, and we cannot see changing. Eventhough this is the man who personally put together Oakley's ad campaign, it is tough to beat down the Nikon/Canon PR juggernaut, as shown with SOny and Pentax, who I think have superior entry and prosumer cameras than the other two, yet have their lunch handed to them by the D60 and XSI. I agree with an earlier post, if they tied this in with a medium format (and if Pentax does not come out with a D645, that would be an awesome way to go) the lack of lenses will hold them back, much like it has done with the Olympus E series

Posted by: David T | Sep 6, 2008 11:29:40 AM

The Bottom line is that I doubt that canon will lincense their mount to the company and Nikon will follow suit.

The Kodak pro cameras at first used both canon and nikon mounts and when canon pulled their lincense it was the beginning of the end for the Kodak pro line

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...kes-aim-a.html

[Chris Ober]

Here is the link to the red site itself

ten pounds without lens and battery and you also need a viewfinder which means it is not optical view but like a video cammera view good luck

ten pounds yikes

http://www.red.com/cameras/tech_specs

That is the video camera.

[Robert O'Toole]

That is the video camera.

Chris is right John. The link is for Red's top of the line 12 Megapixel Red Video cam.

The owner of Red says the DSLR will be released in April at the NAB trade show in Las Vegas.

Should be interesting.

Robert

[john crookes]

Yes I know that is the video camera but the comments are about the news of the dsmc and what they think about it

John