canon 40D
sigma 50-500mm
f 6.3
1/200 s.
ISO 800
the same bird as my last shot, only better exposure and placement and pose.
canon 40D
sigma 50-500mm
f 6.3
1/200 s.
ISO 800
the same bird as my last shot, only better exposure and placement and pose.
Mike, this one certainly is better than your last one. I can see at least you had a shutter speed of 1/200. You have not mentioned what focal length you took the pic with. Fortunately your exif file says you shot at 363mm in aperture priority mode. And it also says the f-stop you used was f5.6, which is the max aperture of your lens. With a focal length of 363 plus crop factor making it an effective focal length of 550-580, I think, unless you're shooting with a tripod, it would be better for you to use a shutter speed of at least 1/500. This means you have to increase the ISO to 1600 or higher. This is for minimising the chances of camera shake showing up in your photo. It could also give you a better chance to freeze any movement from the bird.
Also want to add that you could have used flash on this one.
As of now, this image seems to have a lot of noise. I am guessing...this is the result of a heavy crop? Or is it under-exposed?
I don't know if you do post-processing. If you do, I think you should brighten the photo a bit.
As for composition, I don't think you need so much room on the right. If there is no more room avaiable on the left, I would crop it to make it a square format. I also think it would have been better if there were more room over the top of the bird and lessor of the perch.
My 2 cents.
Last edited by Desmond Chan; 09-12-2008 at 01:05 AM.
Desmond,
your 2 cents are a lot of good critique.
i do have some noise, and i think it would be worse if i used the 1/500 at 1600 ISO, but if you say so, i'll try shutter priority and use 1/500 for my next one. i'll try using fill flash with it.
thanks again for the critique,
mike
Very thorough critique Desmond - some great advice there...
Regards,
Nicki
Hey Mike. While this is a small step in the right direction, everything I said about the last photo holds true with this one as well. Why don't you email me the original file (preferably RAW, but JPEG is fine too). Send it to doug64@gmail.com. I'd like to see how much of this is post-processing vs. in-camera issues. Thanks.
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Mike, I did not mean that you should use ISO 3200 and fill flash at the same time (not that you cannot do it). I mean to say, instead of using natural light as your only light source and thus has to use a high ISO in order to get a shutter speed of 1/500 and faster, you can simply use flash and this way you can use a low ISO and solve the noise problem, assuming you are using the correct exposure.Originally Posted by mikedelaney
Hi Mike
Do like this one better than the previous Regarding the ISO and shutter speed its all relative. If you are able to steady the camera I might be tempted to go for the 800 shutter speed but would also increase it to 1250 for a little more shutter speed or another try.
Noise wise keep in mind the bg has lots to do with it. Most of the noise will be evident in the bg and if that bg is underexposed at all the noise will be even more evident. Add to that a strong crop and things become even worse. I don't find the noise objectionable in this image. The base exposure is not bad since you have a clearly visible eye. My main concern is with the cropping Would like seeing the bird closer to the right. Looking better !!
Hi Mike,
I must say, this is better than your previous post. You need to pay attention to all of the good advise given. My only comment for you today is that when you frame on a horizontal, make sure to have space in the direction that your bird is looking into...:cool: Looking forward to your next one...:D I modified your image a bit to show you...:cool:
I think this is better than your last post too. I like the crop that Gus has done. Keep up the good work!
as always, thanks for your time and trouble.
i never tried shutter priority since my days of getting monster noise at ISO 800. i''ll try as soon as i can to go for ISO 1600 and higher shutter speed. maybe i'll try aperture priority and that ISO. at any rate i'll try new things that you suggest. doug, i'll get the pic to you tonight.
mike
Mike, check out this discussion on shutter priority vs. aperture priority from an earlier ETL thread:
http://www.birdphotographers.net/for...29075#poststop
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