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    Default Dowitcher in Surf

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    Another from Plymouth Long Beach in Massachusetts late this past summer.

    Nikon 500 AFSII and TC14EII. ISO 500, f7.1

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    Well presented, Jim, and great exposure, light and good subject placement.

    A lower angle, is possible, would give you another option, and if this were mine, I would use the magic patch on the foam's highlights, since they could distract a bit.

    Thanks for sharing this :)

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    Love it as presented Jim, what is a magic patch?

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    I like the angle Jim The bg is appealing Just get rid of some of the highlights in the foam

    By looking at that blue it looked like a Nikon image !!!

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    Default Re: Foam Highlights

    Just thinking out loud, but as those highlights really and truly are there to our eyes when we view this scene in real life, is it really necessary to tone them down in a photograph?

    While I agree that if there were big enough to draw ones attention away from the subject, they should be corrected.

    Are we suggesting to remove them because they are that distracting, or simply because this is the status quo these days?

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    Jim looking at them in my monitor they look strange? I'm sure in real life they go unnoticed

    The ones I'm referring to are the large ones I don't go by status quo just feel and looks Killer image any way you look at it !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Fenton View Post
    Just thinking out loud, but as those highlights really and truly are there to our eyes when we view this scene in real life, is it really necessary to tone them down in a photograph?

    While I agree that if there were big enough to draw ones attention away from the subject, they should be corrected.

    Are we suggesting to remove them because they are that distracting, or simply because this is the status quo these days?
    Jim, the highlights in the foam didn't bother me at all. If they did, however, I'd have no ethical issues toning them down. Is toning them down necessary? Well, that's up to you, and that's up to each of us. Ethics and "necessity" are an individual assessment. I frequently don't follow advice I get on forum critiques because my ethics and preferences often differ from the one posting, but it's nice to get all the advice I can in case I've missed something. I just assume all critques are basically a "take it or leave" it opinion, and we're all free to take or leave whatever we want. :)


    By the way, my critque is . . . pretty image. It'd just be a nicely composed and exposed shorebird in nice light along the shore except for the fact that it's walking through the foam. I really, really like that added element, and images like this make me wish I lived a lot closer to shores like yours.

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    Gorgeous image, Jim !
    Great pose and colors and love the surf and sharp detail !

    Might be my monitor but it looks like it could stand to go just a smidegon lighter?

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    Very well expressed Steve. I totally agree with your ethics as I would correct an image if I felt it necessary or needed. And I also agree that this image is very, very nice just as presented. To my eye, and I realize we are all diferent and have our own preferences, the highlights just add to the realism and mood. So very nicely done....I think we all agree on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Fenton View Post
    Just thinking out loud, but as those highlights really and truly are there to our eyes when we view this scene in real life, is it really necessary to tone them down in a photograph?

    While I agree that if there were big enough to draw ones attention away from the subject, they should be corrected.

    Are we suggesting to remove them because they are that distracting, or simply because this is the status quo these days?
    Jim, it's a matter of preference or ethics, if you want to call it that.

    I said, if this were mine, meaning just that, what I would do this being my picture. It doesn't mean you have to do it or that one view is right and the other wrong. As you see form the previous answers, there's no consensus ;)

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    A very fine image as posted. All I can suggest is to try to get down lower for a slightly more intimate look.

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    Default As Far As Lower Goes

    I was laying on my gut (I suppose it's definetly big enopugh to have gotten in the way :), shooting on a slight downhill incline with the camera lens resting on my outstretched arm.

    In this case, I would have need a shovel to get lower :D

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    Heck, I thought Glenn was just pulling your leg.

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    I like this a lot, Jim. Great light, colors, pose, setting and details. Personally, I would clone out the biggest white spots but agree that is just a matter of preference.

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    Nicely Done Jim. I like the off center composition, lighting and pose.

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    Excellent image. The composition works for me very well!

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    Jim,
    I like the image. The placement in the frame is pleasing and the image is nice and sharp.
    I even like the foam at the birds feet.

    The only area I feel would improve the image is to burn some of the foam highlights.
    There are a few areas where the whites are clearly clipped.
    I try to stick to the old "Found View Compliant" rules. If it could be done in a chemical darkroom, it was acceptable in PS without disclosure.
    Dodging and Burning are time honored chemical darkroom techniques.

    Jim said,
    "but as those highlights really and truly are there to our eyes when we view this scene in real life, is it really necessary to tone them down in a photograph?"

    Thanks James

    IMO a photograph is not what you see, but what you want seen.
    I try to make my adjustments in camera to produce the image I want seen.
    However, I sometimes need a little "found view" tweak to produce the image I had envisioned.

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    As you know I admire your work a great deal and this image is no exception, highlights and all. One question Jim, was flash used?

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    Lovely shot Jim. Shovels for sale at Cabela's... LOL. Seriously. No nits here. Dave

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