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    Default Great Thick-knee (Esacus recurvirostris)

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    Made this image couple of months ago in a bird sanctuary near Bangalore early in the morning. Would love to know your views.

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    This looks like a beautiful bird, and the lighting looks nice too. Just wish for a better head turn...and the image is oversharpened.

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    Great light, BG and angle. I agree with Daniel regarding head turn and sharpening. Keep them coming!

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    In addition to the above, this might have been better with the bird positioned a bit to our left. And yes, it is way oversharpened. At what stage of your workflow did you sharpen this?
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    Thanks for the review. Arthur, its a pleasure getting it reviewed from you. Sharpening was done as a last step. Let me know your thoughts.I will reprocess the image in a while and post it again. Meanwhile, any suggestions from you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pramod Viswanath View Post
    Thanks for the review. Arthur, its a pleasure getting it reviewed from you. Sharpening was done as a last step. Let me know your thoughts.I will reprocess the image in a while and post it again. Meanwhile, any suggestions from you?
    Hi Pramod, You are welcome. I just wanted to make sure that you were not sharpening your master file and then reducing the size for web.

    As for sharpening for web, you do not want the image to look at all oversharpened as you do when sharpening a large file for printing. Be sure to work at 100% and to click preview on and off so that you can see what you are doing.

    I sharpen my 800pixel j-pegs generically as part of an action. Here are the settings that I use: one round at 200, .3, 1 and a second round at 125, .2, 0.

    On very rare occasion these setting result in a small sharpening halo that is usually spotted by Axel :) but I simply do not have the time to sharpen each e-mail jpeg individually. Hope that that helps. Later and love, artie
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    How about this? Original post was that of a full frame image and this is 5% crop from the original. Another issue might be that I use a TFT and not a CRT monitor :(
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    Sharpening looks much better, there is a slight sharpening halo around the legs, Artie told you so :). Make sure to sharpen within the borders of the subject. More room at the bottom would be good.

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    Thanks a ton for these wonderful comments/reviews. Its a pleasure to be on BPN and learning things from experts :).
    Will try to incorporate these learnings in my future postings.

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    Hi Pramond

    Nits & positives already mentioned. Although re-post is better, it's a bit too tight at the bottom & original was better in that respect.

    Cheers: Wayne

    PS: This is a Great Thick-knee (Esacus recurvirostris) note the massive 'banana' shaped bill.
    Last edited by Wayne Richardson; 07-17-2008 at 11:48 AM. Reason: Latin name included

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    Much better but you took too much off the bottom. No need to crop anything from the bottom.
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    Like the repost much better but agree on the cropping. Thanks for sharing.

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    Hi Pramod, I like a lot this image. the light is very nice to my taste and love the pose of the bird. The eye is killer.

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    Lovely image Pramod. The sharpening in re-post looks much better (not over-sharpened as the 1st post). Most of all, the lighting is superb. I know u have loads of fantastic images to share ;)
    Keep 'em coming...

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