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    SonyA1-Sony 200-600
    1/2500 F7.1 iso1600
    merhaba,
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    Hi Volkan, a nice species, I like the framing, well sharp, and enough space for the subject to breath, however I do feel the Colours & WB look off, not quite right.

    If you warm the WB up and move the Tint slider into the magenta range it starts to look less cold. Whites of the plumage are carrying a cast, but its the dark plumage that is clipped (solid)with zero detail and there're some weird colours happening.

    If you have time, I might revisit the raw and keep clear of Blacks, Shadows and Contrast sliders to see if that helps the dark plumage???? Maybe drop the highlights to see if you can retain some more in the brighter whites, they don't look toasted, just a bit bright.

    The attached is NOT definitive, it can't be, but just to illustrate my thinking and feedback. With some simple adjustments you will have a very nice image.

    TFS
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    hi Steve,

    pp works fine for me. warm colors are effective :) thanks. The raw version he sends an e-mail may jump a click higher.

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    Hi Volkan, thanks for the file.

    So, based on the raw this is just my take:

    1. The file was under exposed with the Blacks slightly clipped, you needed to go more to the right on your Histogram - ETTR
    2. The subject is sharp, with great detail in the eye, bill and plumage
    3. At ISO1600 it was a little noisy/grainy which was surprising, but a better exp would have helped
    4. Image shot Landscape, better to have got closer if you could and then shot Portrait as per the OP, retain as much IQ as possible

    Took the file into Lr, ran a small amount of DN and exported as DNG
    1. WB 4300 Tint +13
    2. Opened up the Exp
    3. Opened up the *Shadows 15, Whites 5 Blacks 20
    4. Saturation 20

    *Never a good thing to open up shadows if the file is under exp, it creates more noise in the image

    Applied a Tone Curve
    Adjusted some colours in the HSL panel
    Adjusted the Colour Grading

    Exported to PS for a Curves adjustment, removed one OOF Stork in BKG, Saved back to Lr

    Cropped, Exported, Sharpened, Saved for Web, Job done.


    Volkan, all adjustments/numbers are purely personal and not definitive.

    Hope this helps
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    Volkan, this is going closer to your OP frame wise.
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    hi Steve,


    first of all thank you for your time. It looks better. It is very nice and explanatory that you list the edits made during the pp.


    Thank you. I'll share a closer shot in the next upload. Considering what you wrote.


    love :Ö3:

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    Hi Volkan you are most welcome, I hope you can understand what I’m suggesting. Getting closer was just a thought to help avoid large crops.

    One thing I did forget to mention, if you use Lr or ACR, change the Profile from Adobe color to Adobe standard.
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    Hi Volkan .. nice to see a stork , looks like you could get quite close and he is not moving / facing away .
    I do like the ruffled feathers and the overall comp , if possible i would have tried a lower shooting angle .
    Your OP looks off in terms of color and tones ... details and sharpness are looking good .

    Steve has shown how the image " should " look like for a solid image ... but could be for sure tweaked in other ways , but that´s a matter of taste if one wants to take it further in terms of tone and color .

    TFS Andreas

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    thanks Steve. I don't use Lr Acr just PS. Should I do Adobe at startup? :)
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    Andreas, thank you, greetings :Ö3:

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    Hi Volkan, I tend to use Lr, but assume PS/ACR is the same.

    Only if the image requires NR
    As soon as you open the raw in PS (ACR) if applicable, you should scroll down and apply Denoise (Enhance). No need to ever go beyond 50%, if it's low ISO ie ISO2500 then scale back the %, you shouldn't need any NR below 1600-2000 if exposed properly.

    *It will then create a DNG file, you then work on this file.

    *If however the image is of a low ISO then just open the file and work on it normally.

    *Only swop the WB Profile to Adobe Standard at these stages
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    Sorry Volkan, I meant to say, yes the images is much better, albeit a bit more selective sharpening. The FG bushes bottom RHC are distracting.
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    Many thanks to Steve. All taken into account :)

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