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    I captured this image at a stop along Blackpoint Wildlife Drive in Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge, Merritt Island, Florida. Comments and critique welcomed and appreciated. Thank you for viewing.

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    Post processed in Lightroom Classic, Photoshop CC 2022 and Topaz Denoise AI
    Cropped for composition and presentation
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    Well detailed and super colours, the background looks a little unsettled here and there, possibly colour noise?

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    Hi Joe .. a nice bird with a good posture , nicely isolated from BG .... which looks nice apart from the artifacts .
    Not sure about the colors in the subject , but have not seen the bird myself ... so they might be correct , depending on the light .
    I would like to see a version with Neat image in use rather than Denoise AI .....

    Looks not like color noise to me ....

    TFS Andreas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Ashton View Post
    Well detailed and super colours, the background looks a little unsettled here and there, possibly colour noise?
    Hi Jon, thank you for viewing and commenting. I think the background looks a little unsettled because did a poor job (wrong tool) of changing some areas. See my response to Andreas, I think that will explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    Hi Joe .. a nice bird with a good posture , nicely isolated from BG .... which looks nice apart from the artifacts .
    Not sure about the colors in the subject , but have not seen the bird myself ... so they might be correct , depending on the light .
    I would like to see a version with Neat image in use rather than Denoise AI .....

    Looks not like color noise to me ....

    TFS Andreas
    Hi Andreas, thank you for viewing and commenting. I use Topaz because at this time it appears to be the best while preserving feather detail without smudges or artifacts. I am posting two images, each identical, the first using Neat Image, the second Topaz. I used the auto settings for both letting the algorithm of the software determine the noise. See my next two posts.
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    Neat Image...
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    Topaz Denoise...
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    Joe ... the Neat Image file does look better to me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    Joe ... the Neat Image file does look better to me .
    Hi Andreas, I read your private message and was going to send you the original but when I was back at the computer the message with your email address was gone. I can send the original if you can work on a DNG. I convert all images to DNG's in Lightroom. Most times I can extract the original NEF but this set of images when imported it must have been unchecked to embed the original file. Let me know if you want it.

    On the Neat Image file the neck feathers are smudged from the noise reduction. Using both I find that Topaz Denoise AI in most instances is better for preserving feather detail while reducing the noise. I have looked at many images side by side. Most times I work up both Neat Image and Topaz picking the one I think is better after comparing.

    Thanks for your interest, let me know if you want a link to the original in DNG format.
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    Hi Joe ... if you like send me the NEF file .
    Will send it through C1

    Chers Andreas

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    The Neat Image version looks terribly noisy to me. I like the image and had zero problem with the background in the original post. Joe did a fine job with a potentially awkward image design.

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    Hi Joe ... thanks for the DNG file
    I made basic adjustments in C1 .... really basic !!!
    Cropped in PS and downsized with no further edits .... before using Neat Image

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    And here is the version after using Neat Image and some minor adjustments plus downsized for web .

    Let me know what you think !!

    Cheers Andreas

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    Hi Andreas, thank you for taking time to work on my image. Both look good, the one using Neat Image certainly has a smoother background with less noise. In my original post of the image I had done a couple tweaks to separate the bird from the background. I think we do post processing differently but get to the same place in the end. Thanks again, Andreas.
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    Hi Joe no problem , was a pleasure .
    I kindly disagree that we come to the same place in the end , as your versions are pushed a lot more in terms of color and contrast .... matter of taste .
    Another thing is that my version with Neat Image is showing a lower noise level than yours , albeit using the same software .

    Cheers Andreas

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    Thanks everyone for viewing and commenting, much appreciated.
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