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Well captured Steve....It is looking good....what a pose...Very nice detail on the bird and it looks like the light was almost perfect...With the shadows, I suppose it's a matter of taste....On this frame the shadows actually add..for me...it looks more natural.....But if you had posted the frame with the shadows removed first , I would never have known, and it wouldn't change my opinion overall........I can see ....on some images, where shadows can be a distraction......but not here.....The Red Grouse on my patch have dropped dramatically during the past couple of years.....
Great POV
Will
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Hi Steve, I like the first image as posted with the shadows. With the shadows removed one who is knowledgeable seeing the angle of light would wonder why there were not shadows. Post processing spot on as usual. Love the scene, thank you for sharing.
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Cheers Will, numbers are still OK, but tend to stay now in one location, but what was surprising was that in June there was an abundance of Curlew which I've not seen for many years.
Re the shadows, well I guess we are used to seeing them, but I'm second guessing on the feedback.
Hope things are OK, not seen you for a while, looks like you may have had a little dusting recently?
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Cheers Joe.
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Hi Steve ... i am 100 % with Joe here . Shadows should stay ....
Other than that , love the overall intense and deep colors ... LOVELY .... but would keep an eye on the blues inside the subject , I would reduce them .
Super cool pose , stunning details and top notch sharpness .... just how it should be or look like
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Good to see the other " distractions " on the LHS as viewed .... resulting in a " lively" BG , rather than a super smooth single colored BG .
TFS Andreas
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Good to see the other " distractions " on the LHS as viewed .... resulting in a " lively" BG , rather than a super smooth single colored BG .
LOL Andreas, I do try to keep the images as close to 'as captured', just thought I would provide an option, the manipulation is easy and in two mins done, so no bid deal. Thanks.
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Lol, I'll be the one going against the grain and prefer the no shadow version
. I do like the "springy heather" floor, hidden feet and all. Good call on the vertical. I also like that you removed the pale oof fg area at the extreme bottom right corner. Beautiful rich colours throughout.
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‘There is always one Dan,’ 
So, my question is: Is it because it shows the subject in better light, more natural and the shadows are just to distracting, they draw the eye? Be good to know as I’m personally 50/50, but may help others Dan.
As I took the shadows out I did do a little cosmetic tweaking as you saw, good spot.
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I am fine with the shadows, but I do like the version without them a tiny bit better. Was there more distracting elements on the left? Just wondering why the center comp? I might have placed him a bit off center, but I still like it either way.
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Hey Steve, to answer your question, the shadows are too distracting. Quite subjective of course as I most don't mind them. They are by no means an image killer in this case, just a preference on my part.
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Hey Steve, to answer your question, the shadows are too distracting. Quite subjective of course as I most don't mind them. They are by no means an image killer in this case, just a preference on my part.
Cheers Dan, just though it would be helpful to clarify and the thinking, perhaps something for folk to look at in future images within the Avian community.
Hope you have got to grips with the R6, big departure from the beloved 7D2 (RIP), but the advancements are just oh so good. If you use Back Button, then I hope you have maximised those three buttons for AF.
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Was there more distracting elements on the left? Just wondering why the center comp? I might have placed him a bit off center,
Yes there were Kurt, no particular reason for a more central position, perhaps the FP dictated, compared to a mirrorless body, however going to a 4x3 would answer your concerns.
Don't look at the R3!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Steve Kaluski
Cheers Will, numbers are still OK, but tend to stay now in one location, but what was surprising was that in June there was an abundance of Curlew which I've not seen for many years.
Re the shadows, well I guess we are used to seeing them, but I'm second guessing on the feedback.
Hope things are OK, not seen you for a while, looks like you may have had a little dusting recently?
Good new about the Curlews.....not really getting a lot of Snow here ....Up north, Cairngorm is...maybe try and get a week booked on one of the west coast islands March/April time.....I've been invited to Albania in the summer.....that should be good.... All Bird Photographers and the locals will take us to best locations....
Will
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Curlews all gone now, but let’s see for later in the year.
Albania, not a location I know at all Will, just make sure you get all your documents correct and up to date and check baggage allowance for your kit. Plus take your laptop and two ex HD, download every day and mirror the two HD.
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