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    I captured this image alone Wading Bird Way trail in Circle B Bar Reserve in Polk County, Florida. Comments and critique welcomed and appreciated. Thank you for viewing.

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    Joe love the cormorant, colours and details look great and the pose isn't too shabby either!
    The sky is just a little dense for me I think I would desaturate a little bit and lighten it just a tad also, I think this shows the cormorant to better effect also.

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    Hey Joseph

    I love these birds and I love your pic, well done, agree with Jonathan on the sky, you could tone that down a bit. But fantastic sharp image

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    Hey Jon and Wayne, thank you for viewing and commenting. I smiled at your comments regarding the blue sky because I had already lessened the saturation because I thought the sky too blue. I think either converting to a jpeg or posting in BPN added saturation. Here is a edit with the les saturation in the blue and lightening the blue a bit. Thanks again guys...
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    Repost looks great Joe!

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    I think either converting to a jpeg or posting in BPN added saturation.
    Joe, nothing can happen from your Master file to output, if when uploading the file did change and add saturation, then we would ALL be in the same position.

    Drop me a line with the steps you do to convert from Master file to Web Output.
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    Love the lighting, color, detail, and pose, Joe. I especially like the scalloped feathers on the bird's back; their sheen is really cool. The direct stare sucks us right into hose aqua eyes. A very strong image!

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    I like both. The bluer the sky the better in my opnion. The eyes look great I do like that open mouth.

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    Hi Joe ... quite nice open beak effect .
    Well color and tone matter of taste .

    How do you get the idea that you change color when exporting or uploading the image to BPN ?? If that happens your WF needs some adjustments .

    BTW in your RP you did not only change the blue color .... IMHO ... other colorant tones looking tweaked too ???

    TFS Andreas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    Hi Joe ... quite nice open beak effect .
    Well color and tone matter of taste .

    How do you get the idea that you change color when exporting or uploading the image to BPN ?? If that happens your WF needs some adjustments .

    BTW in your RP you did not only change the blue color .... IMHO ... other colorant tones looking tweaked too ???

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    Hi Andreas, I guess from what you and Steve have said that the colors don't change. Although blue especially appears to get more saturated than the TiFF and Master File. In the repost of this image I lowered the blue saturation to -14 and I increased the luminance of the blue to +25. No other changes were made to the repost. No colors were tweaked in the Original/Master file or the 16 bit Tiff. Not sure why you think the other colorant tones look tweaked. What is WF that you said might need some adjustments?

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    Very strong frame Joe. Some great comments but I agree with the detail on this one, in plumage, eyes and even beak.

    RP is a bit better from my view. Fun action, well seen!

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    Thanks everyone for viewing and commenting, much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Przybyla View Post
    Hi Andreas, I guess from what you and Steve have said that the colors don't change. Although blue especially appears to get more saturated than the TiFF and Master File. In the repost of this image I lowered the blue saturation to -14 and I increased the luminance of the blue to +25. No other changes were made to the repost. No colors were tweaked in the Original/Master file or the 16 bit Tiff. Not sure why you think the other colorant tones look tweaked. What is WF that you said might need some adjustments?

    Thanks Andreas for viewing and commenting.
    Hey Joe .. just wanted to say that I have no changes in my images when I am going to export them from PSD/TIF to jpeg or then uploading to BPN . Meaning for sure no color shifts and/or tonal changes . That's why I was questioning your WF ... if you have shifts in appearance of tone and color .

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    Hi Andreas, Joe shared his steps, nothing I can see from what he outlined. If LR prefs were different to PS and provided said boxes check, he would have been told that the files were not compatible my a message from PS. Unless viewed on a laptop, I cannot see where any ‘visual’ changes may stem from.

    The only way would be if he doesn’t retain the Master file and reworks, or exports the Raw with initial changes by mistake.
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    Good morning Andreas and Steve, the only color I notice changes in is blue, that color or sky appears to become more saturated from the master file. The comments on the blue of the sky often are that it is too saturated for those commenting. I have a Eizo ColorEdge display and use the Eizo software Color Navigator to calibrate the display. Looking at the master file I do not think it is too blue, I do not add saturation in post processing, so not sure why blue appears too saturated for others likes. I kind of chalked it up to differenced in displays and calibration. Other than that I have no idea.
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    Hi Joe,

    I like the original better. the deep blues and contrast is from Florida sun. I think the folks in Europe have not seen what panhandle sun looks like so that clouds their judgement, I don't think the image was oversaturated and I'd keep as it was if it were mine. I might just reduce the sharpening a bit though.

    nice work with the open bill and the details

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    Quote Originally Posted by arash_hazeghi View Post
    Hi Joe,

    I like the original better. the deep blues and contrast is from Florida sun. I think the folks in Europe have not seen what panhandle sun looks like so that clouds their judgement, I don't think the image was oversaturated and I'd keep as it was if it were mine. I might just reduce the sharpening a bit though.

    nice work with the open bill and the details

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    Hi Arash, thank you for viewing and commenting. Your suggestions are well taken, I shall leave the blue alone and will lower the sharpening. Thanks again...
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