Wingsup Wigeon

[Brian Sump]

Was pleased to find a gathering of Wigeons down the river. Hard to miss their unique squack (if you will).

Canon R5
600mm
Handheld
ISO 1600
1/5000
f5.6

LR and PS, DN (started in Adobe Neutral and built up from there). Added a bit of canvas and smoothed a couple bkg spots.

[dankearl]

Nice and sharp like all your recent stuff, except for the Green on the head, this looks very washed out to me.
I am sure the file is great, I would add some color. You are shooting DFC in good light, you should not be processing much....

[Brian Sump]

Dan, thanks for the compliment.

Great point on the sat. I ran some extra vib/sat but can see it still falls short. Still coming accustom to starting in Natural vs Color profile.

How do you like this instead?

**** EDIT: I could not get saturation adjusted properly in LR so I started from scratch in DPP. Here is the result.

This is one of the most frustrating things to me about the R5 is that some files work better in LR and some in DPP. I guess I just try each shot in both and see ****

[dankearl]

Depending on the season they look like this where I live and it is still a bland Wigeon....
Maybe not bland. Average, non breeding
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[Paul Burdett]

I said "wow" when I saw this...it really hits you in the face...great detail and sharpness. The most recent post is my favourite of the three. Exposure looks spot on and a lovely BG too. Looks like the R5/600 combo is a winner!

[Steve Kaluski]

Hi Brian, very nice indeed.

Adobe Neutral, you call. Overall the OP works for me, although I might go less magenta and slightly warmer on the belly, but not as far as Dan's that's over cooked, love the water droplets. My only niggle are the wings, they appear quite grainy, creating the impression that area has been lifted, whites look spot on.

TFS
Steve

[Arthur Morris]

Flying Duckman, Where are you getting these backgrounds from? Heaven? My first thought when I looked at the OP was that the midtones on the bird could go a bit darker. As I scrolled down I saw Dan's repost and thought the some extra saturation on the belly would not hurt.

with love, artie

[Dorian Anderson]

This is excellent: pose, wings, BG, etc. Your repost looks the truest to color, especially on the pink flanks. I have nothing of this species. They are on every pond around here but literally never fly. They just walk around on the adjoining grass.

[Andreas Liedmann]

Hi Brian ..... another super cool " duck in flight " shot . Perfectly timed and executed in the field .....

I know you like it a bit more " contrasty " , so will leave it to you . Very interesting to hear your thoughts about the colors in LR/ DPP .... some work here others work there better ??!! My thought is one just needs to master the colors in DPP or LR . One needs to know the " tendency of the Canon colors" in DPP in the various picture styles .... I always lower the oranges in DPP depending on the image by -1 to -3 .
But this for sure only my view ...and color is subjective .

Steve - also raised a question why you choose " Adobe Color Profile " ??? I would echo that question .... but guess you like the profile for it's color/contrast style .

Regardless of my thoughts , a stunning frame

TFS Andreas

[annmpacheco]

. Hi Brian, lots to like here and i agree, a hybrid of DPP and LR, not a clear choice, I like Dan's repost bc the midtones and saturation look more representative

[Brian Sump]

I said "wow" when I saw this...it really hits you in the face...great detail and sharpness. The most recent post is my favourite of the three. Exposure looks spot on and a lovely BG too. Looks like the R5/600 combo is a winner!

Paul, well I guess "wow" can mean really good or really bad haha. I am thankful that you like this one.

RE the R5/600, it's been an adjustment for sure but I think it's up for the challenge :-)

Hi Brian, very nice indeed.

Adobe Neutral, you call. Overall the OP works for me, although I might go less magenta and slightly warmer on the belly, but not as far as Dan's that's over cooked, love the water droplets. My only niggle are the wings, they appear quite grainy, creating the impression that area has been lifted, whites look spot on.

TFS
Steve

Steve, really only three viable options in LR afa I am concerned - Color, Standard and Neutral (no flat for Canon). But yeah, it's definitely a huge adjustment switching from Color to Neutral.

I think I see what you are referring to on the wings - you mean the leading edges near the wrists? No lifting done in terms of exp and such. The raw files show graininess there so must be attributed to the species/season/age.

Flying Duckman, Where are you getting these backgrounds from? Heaven? My first thought when I looked at the OP was that the midtones on the bird could go a bit darker. As I scrolled down I saw Dan's repost and thought the some extra saturation on the belly would not hurt.

with love, artie

Artie, well... you know a little prayer goes a long way ;-) Nah, I work hard to get the right setting in the field; sometimes it pays off, others not so much.

RE mid tones, agreed.

This is excellent: pose, wings, BG, etc. Your repost looks the truest to color, especially on the pink flanks. I have nothing of this species. They are on every pond around here but literally never fly. They just walk around on the adjoining grass.

Thanks man. I agree with you on the colors - DPP wins here hands down.

Hi Brian ..... another super cool " duck in flight " shot . Perfectly timed and executed in the field .....

I know you like it a bit more " contrasty " , so will leave it to you . Very interesting to hear your thoughts about the colors in LR/ DPP .... some work here others work there better ??!! My thought is one just needs to master the colors in DPP or LR . One needs to know the " tendency of the Canon colors" in DPP in the various picture styles .... I always lower the oranges in DPP depending on the image by -1 to -3 .
But this for sure only my view ...and color is subjective .

Steve - also raised a question why you choose " Adobe Color Profile " ??? I would echo that question .... but guess you like the profile for it's color/contrast style .

Regardless of my thoughts , a stunning frame

TFS Andreas

Andreas, thank you for your encouraging comments!

Historically I chose Adobe Color with Nikon. It was more contrasty but better colors IMO. I have been working to start with Neutral but it's kicking my butt. Just need more time and practice and unfortunately, there are times I really don't like it vs DPP. No matter what I tried editing the OP, I could not come close to producing the colors shown in the RP outside of DPP, unless I literally brushed colors in.

Thanks for the note on oranges. I am trying to be able to just stick with one, but not feeling comfortable enough to do so at this point.

[Brian Sump]

Here is what I ultimately landed on:

[Steve Kaluski]

Hi Brian, for me it's somewhere between the two, but the green is still an issue I feel, this was what I had thought when writing my original reply in trying to 'temper' the day-glow green anything else was me 'fiddling'.

[Andreas Liedmann]

Brian as far as I know .... there is " Camera Neutral, Faithful etc " as an option in LR/ACR .

Steve once told me ... ( specially when one is not confident yet with the whole processing stuff , regardless of personal prefs in terms of color and tone ) let the image rest for a day , before producing too many variants in one go , and become mixed up !!! Think he was bang on with his suggestion .....

And then look at the variants side by side in PS .... which one is meeting your expectations the most .

Just my 2 cents

[John Mack]

Really digging this one. Nice you don't have any shadows on the far wing. The light is quite nice. Dan's repost takes it up a notch.

[Bill Dix]

The flight pose is perfection. The OP looked good to me, although my first impression was also that the bird looked pale compared to the Wigeons we see on the East Coast. I don't know if there is a regional variation? Anyway, it's a gorgeous shot.