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    I've had a blast studying these Belted Kingfishers. They have allowed me to be fairly up close (non-blinded) and a part of their world.

    The light angle has hampered me and I have worked to reposition but was blessed to catch this one. It is not perfect, but brings me joy certainly and hopefully you will enjoy as well.

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    LR and PS. Cleaned up a couple lines in the bkg and another Kingfisher beak from the UR corner.

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    Amazing view. Getting close to them is a nice trick.
    I know you don't like to hear, but it could be sharpened more....
    Dan Kearl

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    It's ok Dan. I think your eyes are telling the truth.

    Put this one through a pretty strong round of sharpening - 40 in LR, 110/.3 in PS plus final touching.

    In looking at the three shots prior, with inferior wing positions, this was the least sharp. Coming to grips with falling in love with the pose and sacrificing a bit of sharpness. Easy to do.

    Thx for saying.

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    Brian:

    Great wing spread view, fun background, well exposed. The main concern for me is that your DOF isn't covering the head to render it sharp.

    How long has it taken for you to gain their trust? Kingfishers are one of my nemesis birds. I see them every day when I am up north at the lake, but never can get close enough to photograph them. Perhaps some minnows would help?

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    Randy, understand.

    I've heard this from quite a few, and beginning to think I'm getting some special animal kingdom grace. They welcomed me from day one, yet I watch them take off when someone is 500 yds across the pond.

    Very thankful to say the least and subjects I will keep pursuing until they offer me a wall hanger or two.

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    Hi Brian, beautiful bird, lovely wing span and pose. I read in your comments to Dan that you sharpened in Lightroom and Photoshop. The amount of 40 In Lightroom must be the default setting. I think the D850, like my D500, doesn't have a low pass filter. Without the low pass filter images are sharper out of the camera, although in certain instances there may be moire. The default sharpening amount of 40 in Lightroom is to overcome softness created by a low pass filter (capture sharpening). I zero that out so I am only sharpening a image once as the last step in post processing.
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    Thank you Joe. Think you're right that neither the D500 nor 850 have a lpf.

    Yeah it's been the starting point for all recent posts and have been pretty pleased overall. Finding a rhythm with sharpening helps - less now more later, or opposite but i like getting some on the RAW version. Think this one was just a touch out of dead nuts sharp from the onset and the dof from left to right takes away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Przybyla View Post
    Hi Brian, beautiful bird, lovely wing span and pose. I read in your comments to Dan that you sharpened in Lightroom and Photoshop. The amount of 40 In Lightroom must be the default setting. I think the D850, like my D500, doesn't have a low pass filter. Without the low pass filter images are sharper out of the camera, although in certain instances there may be moire. The default sharpening amount of 40 in Lightroom is to overcome softness created by a low pass filter (capture sharpening). I zero that out so I am only sharpening a image once as the last step in post processing.

    I think I discussed this before, what you say is only 50% correct, the capture sharpening is also to offset the effect of demoniac process in the Bayer sensors so even without low pass filter you do need sharpening.

    I do own a D850 a D500 a D5 , Sony, Canon you name it, I find no difference in pixel level sharpness with the cameras that have a LPF (D5/Sony. A9 II), those who have its effect cabled (Canon 5D) and those that don't have one (D850/D500).
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    Nice frame but the head/neck aren't quite sharp, I bet it wasn't quite in focus in RAW. when this happens i no amount of sharpening can save the image unfortunately . the pose is very dynamic so it's a bummer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arash_hazeghi View Post
    I think I discussed this before, what you say is only 50% correct, the capture sharpening is also to offset the effect of demoniac process in the Bayer sensors so even without low pass filter you do need sharpening.

    I do own a D850 a D500 a D5 , Sony, Canon you name it, I find no difference in pixel level sharpness with the cameras that have a LPF (D5/Sony. A9 II), those who have its effect cabled (Canon 5D) and those that don't have one (D850/D500).
    Thanks Arash, your explanation is noted and will be used.
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    Looks great. I have seen these as dots in my local. My have been great being close to them. Love that pose.

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