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    I went down to Ambleside beach to practice photographing birds in flight not expecting to keep any of the images, but this one caught my eye. It may not be the most "interesting" of subjects, however, I liked the motion of the wings with the head still sharp. I'm hoping someday soon I'll get a nice in-flight photo like this of some birds of prey... and not a pigeon.

    Taken with a Nikon D500 + Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6
    Taken at ISO 180, 200mm, f/6.3, 1/800s

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    Hi Alex, well 'chalk and cheese' between this post and the last, all for the good too, well done. Everything looks so much better, including the PP side.

    1/800 looks pretty good and with such a low ISO you had plenty in hand to increase SS without affecting ISO. Just watch that with head on shots, ie subjects coming towards you, that you don't runout of DoF and remember, the closer the subject is, the greater the lens has to work.

    If you can add in the posting if this is FF or cropped that would help, as I think it needs a bit more on the sides, however the dark areas a clipped, hiding detail and form, address that and it makes a difference. I just removed the stupid contrast LR adds in behind the scenes, which I think you use and you can see how much more you have in the tail feathers, plus a smidgen of sharpening.

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    What do you think of this? I added some room on the sides and raised the shadows on its belly.

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    It's better Alex, there area. few repeat patterns, but I personally like the fact you added more on the left. Detail again is better, but raising the shadows is not ideal, especially with higher ISO.

    I meant to say, if you hold down the Alt key when in the Exposure module, when toggling through HL's, Shadows, Whites & Blacks you will see what is blown or Clipped, easy.

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    Neat looking pose. The background is pretty neat. Nice and sharp.

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    I like the subject and it is sharp where it matters but if you shooting BIF, I would go 1/1600 minimum, you will still
    get OOF wings if that is your goal but the sharp areas will be a lot sharper.
    iso400 minimum is what you should use for flight or not.
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    That is a unique incoming pose you got here with the forward wings and fully-flared tail. Sharp where it needs to be, so it worked out in the end, but I agree with bumping up the ISO. I don;t remember when I was under ISO 400 for birds, or 800 for birds in flight. Anyhow, the raised shadows look better, as well as the extended canvas. I can;t help but feel there is a bit more to extract on the wings' whites. Not an easy frame to pull off, and you did well.

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