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Hi David, why shoot wide open, I know you said you were close, but there is no really depth, detail, clarity within the plumage, it just look flat even being square on to the sensor... in addition why 1/3200, I would have thought 1/2500 would have been OK, but then you may have techs from previous shoot? The BKG, is it as is, or please don't say you added any NR?
David, I can't remember what you use for Conversion, but I think you could increase the Exp, bush in some negative exp over the bill and work up more around the yellow part to bring out some tone/detail. Plumage on the head and neck, yes you can pull a bit more out, body plumage not much more I fear. I feel you are improving on the colour side, which is great.
With such mega low ISO I would try increasing your DoF, which will bring down your SS and as the BKG is so far away you should still have a nicely diffused backdrop.
TFS
Steve
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Steve Kaluski
Hi David, why shoot wide open, I know you said you were close, but there is no really depth, detail, clarity within the plumage, it just look flat even being square on to the sensor... in addition why 1/3200, I would have thought 1/2500 would have been OK, but then you may have techs from previous shoot? The BKG, is it as is, or please don't say you added any NR?
David, I can't remember what you use for Conversion, but I think you could increase the Exp, bush in some negative exp over the bill and work up more around the yellow part to bring out some tone/detail. Plumage on the head and neck, yes you can pull a bit more out, body plumage not much more I fear. I feel you are improving on the colour side, which is great.
With such mega low ISO I would try increasing your DoF, which will bring down your SS and as the BKG is so far away you should still have a nicely diffused backdrop.
TFS
Steve
Hi Steven, Thanks for your always valued comments and queries. Short answer, new glass so I'm playing to test capabilities. I did work this subject mostly at f4 and wanted f8 but the BG situation (close wall (at steep up angle) of grasses dappled with dark shadows). In PP I was actually trying to get the most challenging situation to look at resolving power (also why wide open). As I said in title "just a test". Yes, there is no noise reduction. The point of this post was testing glass capability not optimal detail. At 25% of FF and focal point on cheek and eye, I'd say the glass did it's job and when stopped down properly can even produce suitable IQ on medium to large crops. Not so with my old glass.
Your expertise, help and encouragement is always appreciated, my friend... Please keep it coming.
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For the test you were making I can see that as posted for web the details on the face are more than acceptable with that big crop. Great-looking young bird.
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I love the image and I havd zero clue what Steve is talking out. I am seeing a ton of gorgeous detail especially on the head and face.
with love, artie
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I love the image and I havd zero clue what Steve is talking out. I am seeing a ton of gorgeous detail especially on the head and face.
Artie, there is detail in the head/bill, but for me I would have liked similar detail as you have in the neck to continue down the plumage and into the body so to speak. In addition, by making some simple adjustments in the yellow area between the eye and bill David can gain more there too. Hope that helps.
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Thanks to you astute gentlemen for looking and all valued inputs. Steve, I did get your points as I've already stated. Daniel, if you saw the tif before downsize, you might even agree a decent print could be had. The eye especially as it has what I have seen in longer glass views what looks like lined up red/orange worms radiating from the pupil in the iris portion. pretty amazing to me from such a large crop. But. I'm not used to modern glass. And Artie, as always thanks for a photographic lifetime of learnings. Please keep the valued comments coming.
Peace,
David
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Looks spot on to me one of your best portraits i have seen.