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    Young Bald Eagle.
    D500, 500mm (300f2.8 w/ 1.7), f4.8, 1/5000, iso900
    If Arash or Gail or anyone here can answer, I shoot auto iso.
    Since I choose SS and shoot wipe open, it is the only variable.
    Is it better to shoot at 0 and adjust exposure in PP or raise the iso to +
    and not raise shadows in PP.
    I do not shoot birds against the sky that often, but when I do I change iso
    in camera as opposed to post processing.
    This was at +1.33 iso
    Always trying to learn.
    Which is best?
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    I would have guessed you needed at least +1.7 for this shot, I use auto ISO and manual exposure simply because I predetermine shutter speed and aperture, the only immediate variable is ISO. I configure the camera so ISO can be modified with one finger as the bird is in flight, usually this works well as I can see blinkies in the viewfinder. Always best to get the initial capture exposure as accurate as possible so minimising image processing.
    Good focus, the plumage looks a little dark and there is a strong blue cast especially on the left wing.

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    A lovely flight shot with good sharpness and detail. Agree with Jon and he has given some good feedback. Well composed.

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    Hi Dan,
    I rarely use auto ISO (just when there are a lot of clouds in the sky (thus constantly changing light) so I am not an expert by any means.
    But I shoot a lot of eagles and if I am photographing young eagles (with no white on the head so no concern about blowing out the head), I am usually shooting at + 1/1/2 to 2. I would rather blow out the sky and retrieve it in post-processing that underexpose the bird and needing to selectively raise exposure /shadows and ending up with lots of noise.
    So, definitely better to raise ISO in camera IMHO.
    I generally only need 1/2500 for eagles and like to be at 6.3 to 7.1. I find stopping down a bit makes image crisper (for Canon anyway).
    Back to your image- nice and sharp, good wing position and the dreaded boring blue sky. Agree about the blue in the far wing. I usually get this cast when I shoot this scenario but easy fix,
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    Nice view of this juvenile. I like the pose and the light. I will let the experts answer your question.

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    Thanks for the comments, my question was really more that I did raise the exposure by 1.33.
    I do not shoot birds in sky much so most think I should shoot at +2.
    I suppose I could experiment but I don't shoot birds in sky much.
    If I shoot +2 which raises iso from say 200 to 1600 does that process better than
    raising some shadows at a much lower iso?
    Dan Kearl

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    Hmm, that is a good question Dan. With the amazing cameras we are shooting with, the higher ISO issue is moot. I would rather shoot at high ISO and ETTR than try to deal with lifting shadows too much. I do not
    like the introduced noise when I do it.
    Plus, the new noise reduction software available is amazing. I used to use PS, then Neat Image but have started using Topaz AI Denoise and I am absolutely blown away by how good and easy it is to use.

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    Gail,
    Topaz is excellent, could not live without it.
    Iso 3200 is nice light where I live except for a few locations.
    Dan Kearl

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    Raising to +2 definitely better for shadows but I would say 100% chance of blowing white feathers @ +2.0, hence +1.7 try it.

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