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    Another sunrise shot.
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    Cropped, levels, highlight reduction, de-saturated yellow a bit
    Slight sharpen PS2020

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    a much better image than the ones you posted before, I like the fish and the HA. you could probably get more details in the whites. image is a bit underexposed (looks dark) and still has a bit of a red cast to it

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    Hi Colin, is this a large crop? The image does look dark and if you are using ETTR then I would say it's from the adjustment of Levels, plus, the saturation is masking to a degree detail in the bill. There is definitely more detail in the whites. Agree with Arash on the HA and fish.

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    Thank you both for the encouragement. Steve, not a large crop, did use ETTR and I tried to tone it down a bit to get more from the whites,
    It was in golden first sunlight which is always very beautiful to see but doesn't seem to translate well as an image, but is a pity to have to desaturate it away.

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    It was in golden first sunlight which is always very beautiful to see but doesn't seem to translate well as an image, but is a pity to have to desaturate it away.
    Without seeing the Raw Colin it's sometime harder to advise with specific points at times, as there might be other factors that are contributing within your PP that perhaps isn't helping to convey the scene/light, but agree that it would be ideal to retain that 'golden light'. Personally I hate 'Picture styles' and strip everything thing within Neutral, but have you used it here ie Shade, Cloudy...? Just a thought. When using Levels are you holding the alt key to see where things clip?
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    This is the RAW image.
    No I didn't use any of those pre-sets but didn't know about holding the Alt key.

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    raw is way under exposed looks like a night shot taken with flash it's about 2 or 3 stops under.....at least.
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    Colin, are you sure you used ETTR and Highlights is enabled? That's a big crop in my book, I tend to work from 5-12%.
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    So, a way to go yet! Thanks again.

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    So, a way to go yet!
    It's just getting some of those basics in place Colin, then you will be flying. Are you using LR or PS to convert & process your files as I might suggest something, let me know.
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    Steve I have the full CC2020 set but use DPP4 and PS only.

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    That's OK then, if you have Arash's guide for DPP fine, is it up to date, CC2020 great, have dropped you a line.
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    Hi Colin ... the OP is fine for me in terms of subject and context .

    I do not mind that much about the color and tones ... you were there and might like it that way . For me the IQ is not there , specially when the file is coming from Canon´s flagship , albeit being a large crop . I think this is the time when proper editing is coming into play from POV , will make a difference .

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    I'm suprised the image held up to that big of a crop. I like the original more you get more of that nice dark water surrounding the bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Mack View Post
    I'm suprised the image held up to that big of a crop. I like the original more you get more of that nice dark water surrounding the bird.
    John, that RAW image was so sharp it made my eyes bleed!!

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    The surrounding are underexposed as Arash notes, but I am OK with that if you're going for a deliberately artistic look. Bigger issue is the heavy crop; you have to have killer detail for these close-ups to land, even with the added
    interest of the fish. You just can't crop this far into an image an expect to retain necessary detail. Bill is too saturated as Steve notes.

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    All comments appreciated and taken on board.
    As for the underexposed BG, that's how it was with this bright white bird lit up in front of fully shaded water.
    Yes I got a bit carried away with the crop but it does show what is possible from those 20+ megapixels if focus is spot on.

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    Late to the party, but I really like the wider view. The bird in that light looks great against the dark BG and the fish is still very visible to add interest. TFS

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